# Flamsterette, you crossed the line.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 24, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647 "2003-09-24T22:42:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![typo\_mna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eb8c5e/32.png) [@typo\_mna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typo_mna)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/21 "2003-09-25T00:53:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Miller \*  
> \*\*What I find really shocking and amazing is that, after four thousand posts and change, **Flamsterette** actually, finally, said something that was remotely interesting. Shockingly self-centered and childish, yes, but at least it’s a departure from the endless, vapid drone about her unimaginably uninteresting opinions, or pointless, meandering anecdotes that only on very good days have the slightest tangenital relation to the OP. My God, I can’t imagine what it must be like to be around this woman in real life, when you don’t have the advantage of a mouse-wheel to whisk you quickly and serenely past her unendurable maunderings.
> 
> Man, I’ve been wanting to say that for the longest time. But it always seemed bad form to pit someone simply for not being sufficently entertaining. Also, it might possibly not be in my best interests to set that sort of precedent. But since she’s already being pitted for being a self-centered, thoughtless homophobe, I thought I’d take the opportunity to tack “crashing bore” onto the indictment. \*\*

**A-FUCKING-MEN!** Eveything you said, me too.

Plus, I can’t even imagine how she could go and call Tibby, of all people, a degenerate.

Flamsterette, in my eyes you’ve gone from being wothless to having negative worth. I sure wouldn’t miss you if you stopped posting here.

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**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/22 "2003-09-25T00:54:52Z")

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What a snivelling, idiotic, nasty, degenerate bitchcake.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/23 "2003-09-25T00:57:30Z")

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Amazing. Not only did she apparently intend to, one way or another, let someone she called a “friend” know that his card just wasn’t quite good enough for her, but she used the word “degenerate” against a woman who is sweet, lovely, and kind. I’m speechless.

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**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/24 "2003-09-25T00:57:41Z")

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Shit, I’d be happy with any old birthday card that was unexpected and not the obligatory “daughter we love you stuff”

I’ve screwed up on this board in a big way, but thank the good lord I came to my senses… **Flamsterette** please reread your post and comment to Tiburon and reconsider…really…

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**Author:** ![techchick68](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@techchick68](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/techchick68)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/25 "2003-09-25T01:01:15Z")

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I know who she is talking about and I could out and out kick her ass for being so fucking petty over such a little thing.

I am not one for pile-ons for the sake of pile ons but FUCK, I am sitting here shaking because I want to kick her ass for such a lame ass thing…I am livid with her.

MS or not, he took the time out to acknowledge your birthday that should be enough. He has a heart of gold and I will forever be in debt to him for all he’s done for me and to see those words really has me furious with you **Lamesterette**.

I am serious, I am literally shaking from my need to punch you for being so ungreatful.

WTF? WTF were you thinking?

Geezus.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/26 "2003-09-25T01:02:30Z")

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What **UncleBill** said in his post in the original thread. And what **Tibs** said here. (Degenerate, my ass. I hope someday to be half the class act she is.)

I spose this is already piling on, so I’ll let that suffice.

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**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/27 "2003-09-25T01:04:44Z")

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**Tiburon** IS a degenerate.

FOR ME TO POOP ON.

I’d like to kiss her naughtily.

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**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/28 "2003-09-25T01:05:19Z")

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You made me lose my appetite, Flam. In the middle of eating a piece of apple pie. Almost nothing can do that to me.

One thing can, though:

Self-centred, delusional, childish and positively Evil little bitches like you.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/29 "2003-09-25T01:05:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Mauvaise \*
> 
> I was torn whether I should post this in the IMHO thread or this one, but I feel this is the proper place my my response.
> 
> I know people keep stressing the fact that Flam\_X’s friend has MS and that is the main reason she’s being \<insert adjective here\>. But really? The man could be wealthy beyond belief, healthy as an ox, and have _three_ strong working hands and it wouldn’t make her OP any less appalling.

You’re not alone in that sentiment at all. Note that I said the same thing in the original thread (emphasis added here):

> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by Shayna_
> 
> But either way, **even if the card-giver in the OP _didn’t_ have MS and the use of only one hand** , actually telling them you were offended that they didn’t include your name inside the card is the absolute height of rudeness. When someone does something nice for you, even if it’s not what you would have done in similar circumstances, it’s extraordinarily gauche to express anything but the most sincere gratitude.

Since I was the first one to call her on her selfish, ungrateful, rude and childish behaviour, I’m glad to see that I wasn’t the only one who saw it that way.

The other thing that doesn’t seem to have been mentioned is the backhanded stab she took at her friend John for having had the gall to send her a birthday card that **arrived late** (again, emphasis added here):

> [@](#):
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> _Originally posted by Flamsterette\_X_
> 
> My friend John mailed me a birthday card all the way from Connecticut, and **it finally got here** a little before 10 AM **yesterday**.

For the record, her birthday was [September 17th](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=211721).

Bitch.

I hope she never gets another birthday card as long as she lives. It would serve her right.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/30 "2003-09-25T01:09:59Z")

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Whenever I send someone a card–be it one that I make from scratch, one I buy, or one of those electronic greeting cards–I always include a poem which I write especially for the person and event. Oddly enough, I do not expect anyone else on the planet to do the same for me when they send me a card. I merely appreciate the thought. Words of wisdom: “It’s the thought that counts.”

Of course, it takes a working brain to have a thought.

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**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/31 "2003-09-25T01:12:15Z")

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I think **flami** made a bad judgment call in her thread by presenting the topic unfairly, but I think it is a bit disingenious to say she meant to slam her friend. She knows where the pit is.

Ironic that in asking about manners she basically acted improperly? Yeah.

But the whole MS thing? Red herring, people. She has told us (and I only mention it because she has, I would otherwise consider it not my business to say so) that she has a mild form of cerebral palsy, which is a condition that affects motor control. So it isn’t like she has no clue what it means to have some condition that can affect a person in non-standard ways.

She made a bad judgment call, and probably deserves a little slamming for it.

As for the “degenerate” comment… well, she’s on her own there. Just wanted to say my piece about the card thing.

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/32 "2003-09-25T01:13:07Z")

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I can’t believe it.

Of all the people **Flami** had to whine about, it had to be about one of the kindest, gentlest, classiest people I know, on the board or off. Truthfully, I can’t think of anyone more deserving of a good bitchslap than she.

Under normal circumstances, I’d suggest that she stay with my grandmother for a while to learn some grace and manners. Unfortunately, my grandmother has even less patience with whiny, ungrateful, no-class candy asses than the SDMB does.

Robin

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**Author:** ![Skerri](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Skerri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skerri)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/33 "2003-09-25T01:13:34Z")

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**Flam** , I never pile on people in the pit. But you TOTALLY deserved this. How someone could be so ungracious, so uncaring is beyond me. I am totally flabbergasted by your reaction.

You knowingly posted on a board where the victim is a member, and BITCHED ABOUT THEIR GENEROSITY? Where the fuck is your head? Sweet Jeebus, I wish you’d get some sense in your THICK HEAD.

Fucking moronic ass.

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**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/34 "2003-09-25T01:17:27Z")

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what **eris** said.

yea, she said stuff that was out of line. I’d like to see her given a chance to appologize before folks start posting about impending tortures and beatings they’d like to give.

As **BBJ** said, others have said stupid stuff here and appologized.

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**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/35 "2003-09-25T01:19:01Z")

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I have never had much opinion on **Flamsterette\_X** one way or the other, but calling **Tiburon** a degenerate and holding up to public ridicule (the intention if not the actual result) of a member of this forum for giving her a CARD is just . . .

. . . Well, all I can say is that she has fallen into the “Persons without Breeding” list.

And that’s a bad list to be on.

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**Author:** ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/36 "2003-09-25T01:24:26Z")

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:eek:

Yesterday I was driving to work and suddenly everyone was slowing down, quickly. Well an accident had just occurred on the other side of the freeway (for those of you interested and understand LA freeways, it was the 405 in Long Beach). I of course had to look (I think it is the law that we must look at all accidents to determine if they are sight seeing worthy or just run of the mill everyday fender benders). There was a truck and a couple of cars who got too personal with each other. Well there was this van that was rolled over and I saw a group of about a half dozen men gather round the van trying to help the person inside (the cops hadn’t got there yet). All these gentlemen were in suits but you could tell they were doing their part to help someone in need. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to have that remembrance that there are those people in the world who will help others even if it puts their good clothes in jeopardy.

now I have read the post by **Flamsterette\_X** and have once again been reminded that there are some people in the world who aren’t as nice as they should be.

Bummer.

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**Author:** ![Ryan\_Liam](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ryan_liam/32/3965_2.png) [@Ryan\_Liam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ryan_Liam)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/37 "2003-09-25T01:24:33Z")

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I reckon its stress from having to think about being one year older :rolleyes so I guess this is why she was so bitchy to me when I devoted a thread to her a day before her birthday.

Oh yeah HAPPY 27TH FLAMSTERETTE!

YES 27TH

27, 27 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27, 27. Don’t forget, ure one year older now!! (highlight Old)

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**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/38 "2003-09-25T01:24:59Z")

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Wow. I don’t have a lot of friends, so whenever I get a birthday card it means a whole lot to me. I keep a bunch of them in a shoebox and look at them when I’m lonely. I know that sounds pathetic, but it’s true.

I find it ironic that **Flammy** , who makes a big deal of announcing all the Dopers’ birthdays each month, would crap on someone who went out of his way to acknowledge her special day.

**Flamsterette** , you deserve the vitriol being heaped upon you now. Ungrateful and mean people gets no love. But tomorrow is a new day. You should make amends by doing something extra nice for your friend. And you should also apologize for being an asshat to **Tiburon**.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/39 "2003-09-25T01:26:03Z")

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I must have missed something.

Who the hell sent the card?

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**Author:** ![JavaMaven1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@JavaMaven1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JavaMaven1)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2003, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flamsterette-you-crossed-the-line/203647/40 "2003-09-25T01:27:38Z")

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Sad thing is, this is the kind of attitude I’d expect from a child who just doesn’t know better.

**Flamsterette** , you’re twenty-seven years old. You \*should \*know better.

Plus, let me add (along with the rest): how dare you call **Tibs** a degenerate?

Certainly, I’d like to see you defend your comments.

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