# Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818 "2014-10-09T01:14:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/342 "2015-02-12T19:51:12Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > What kind of urgent, late-breaking, sudden lead would a sports reporter have to pursue? Whether LeBron James decided to play for Central City? An athlete that plays for Central City got a DUI or was dragged out of his house for alleged domestic violence. A Central City athlete is visiting other teams in secret. The owner of the team had a heart attack. Lots of things. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/343 "2015-02-12T20:27:55Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Huh. Too bad they didn’t get [Linda Park](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0971133/?ref_=nv_sr_1) to play Linda Park. And then in a later development, she could turn out to be Cy-Lon in disguise. 🙂 The problem with Flash and Arrow is that it seems like everyone is going to get their fifteen minutes as a superhero. (I do like the audacity of both shows, though.) ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/344 "2015-02-13T03:09:20Z")
I caught the name “Mal Duncan” and knew he was the Guardian in DC Comics. [Here are more episodal Easter eggs.](http://comicbook.com/2015/02/11/the-flash-easter-eggs-and-dc-comics-references-in-the-nuclear-ma/) ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/345 "2015-02-13T03:49:41Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > I caught the name “Mal Duncan” and knew he was the Guardian in DC Comics. > > [Here are more episodal Easter eggs.](http://comicbook.com/2015/02/11/the-flash-easter-eggs-and-dc-comics-references-in-the-nuclear-ma/) Jim Harper (or his clones) will always be Guardian to me! > [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > And then in a later development, she could turn out to be Cy-Lon in disguise. 🙂 That’s GRACE Park, not Linda. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/346 "2015-02-13T15:03:09Z")
[quote=“TBG, post:345, topic:700818”] Jim Harper (or his clones) will always be Guardian to me! Actually, me as well. But this Mal Duncan, singer on the TV shoiw, also became Vox, another sonic-powered super in the comics. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/347 "2015-02-18T05:32:04Z")
Good episode. They resolved Firestorm just how they should have. So which Reverse Flash is Wells?? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/348 "2015-02-18T07:05:44Z")
Lots of fun stuff this episode, but boy did I get sick of someone showing up, punching all the soldiers into unconsciousness, and leaving the general plenty of time to activate some random device or other. Sigh. This show just doesn’t know how NOT to have scenes like that apparently. Also, they seem to have completely forgotten that professor Stein ought to have been well aware that Dr. Wells was the one who drugged him. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 9:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/349 "2015-02-18T09:37:47Z")
I am rather surprised at the pace of this series. Plot points that would, in other series, take several seasons to unfold are here developed (Dare I say it?) in a flash. I thought we’d only learn the details about Nora Allen’s death over the course of the entire series, but it looks like we’re going to see the whole thing resolved by the end of the first season. Since our TV Flash is Barry Allen, our TV Reverse Flash should be Professor Zoom. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/350 "2015-02-18T11:22:12Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Good episode. They resolved Firestorm just how they should have. There was a distinct lack of sad _Bill-Bixby-Hitchhiking-Away_ music. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/351 "2015-02-18T15:02:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > There was a distinct lack of sad _Bill-Bixby-Hitchhiking-Away_ music. Didn’t Firestorm fly away? (Must have–can you imagine anyone picking up a hitchhiker with a thumb that was on fire? :eek:) Anyway, that music doesn’t work for someone flying. I liked the episode, but if the general knew who the Flash was, why didn’t he kidnap him already? Also, won’t the army think the Flash kidnapped him? (Although maybe that’s going to be a plot point in the next episode.) My husband (who is Andy L) noted that although Barry and Iris are close in age, Barry’s much more advanced in his career than she is. I pointed out that it’s difficult to get a (paying) job in journalism these days. He said, “The way to solve that is to decide to go into a different line of work.” ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/352 "2015-02-18T18:36:23Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Good episode. They resolved Firestorm just how they should have. I thought it seemed like they didn’t really have any idea where to go with the character(s?) and thus, just decided to send them off into the unknown. Also, dammit, but I’m really finding it hard to keep tolerating Barry forgetting about his super-speed… When the general threw the needle grenade thingy, as it was flying through the air, even I would have had time to at least turn away; Barry should have been in the next county and still accelerating. And the science-babble seems to get worse by the episode. “All matter wants to be together” as an explanation for the firestorm-matrix trying to reassemble itself? And that line about dead fiance guy’s body rejecting Professor Stein’s atoms last episode… Now, I’m not exactly expecting hard sci fi from my comic book TV, but still, at some point, it just looks lazy if you’re not even willing to come up with the thinnest of wallpapering over the holes in logic. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/353 "2015-02-18T20:11:39Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > Him not rescuing his wrongfully imprisoned father is a bigger issue to me. He has near omnipotent supernatural powers. The normal cops have no realistic chance of arresting him or keeping his father locked up if they catch him after he escapes. He could rescue his dad and just keep breaking him out every time they catch him. > > Or, uh, steal nuclear warheads, hold the President of the United States at gunpoint until he signs a pardon, etc etc. Being able to move faster than any human can even perceive or react makes for a lot of options… A lot of options… if he wants to be thought of as a super-_villain_ instead of a super-_hero_. His goal isn’t only to get his father free, but to clear his name, too. > [@Habeed](#): > > So, uh, solitary confinement is generally considered torture. And the jail cells in that particle accelerator basement don’t appear to have bathrooms or any way to get food or water. The only way they could work and not kill the inmates within about 3 days is if time is suspended while the prisoners are in the holding area. Yeah… that does kind of straddle the hero/villain line. As a _very_ longtime Flash fan, I can’t accept that Barry would play so fast and loose (no pun intended) with the concept of _due process_, even when the criminals are super-powered. ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/354 "2015-02-18T20:23:17Z")
Easter Eggs: Caitlin mentioned Midway and Coast City. Midway was Hawkman’s home; Coast City was Green Lantern’s. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2015, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/355 "2015-02-18T20:47:03Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I thought it seemed like they didn’t really have any idea where to go with the character(s?) and thus, just decided to send them off into the unknown. Well, FS isn’t a regular main cast member. They kinda had to send him off for awhile. He’ll be back. I was more of a Marvel than DC comic collector, but I did buy (and have in a box somewhere) Firestorm issue #1. Ronnie (don’t call me Ronald) had a professor stuck in his head, and I was afraid they were going to change that. > [@](#): > > Also, dammit, but I’m really finding it hard to keep tolerating Barry forgetting about his super-speed… When the general threw the needle grenade thingy, as it was flying through the air, even I would have had time to at least turn away; Barry should have been in the next county and still accelerating. > > And the science-babble seems to get worse by the episode. “All matter wants to be together” as an explanation for the firestorm-matrix trying to reassemble itself? And that line about dead fiance guy’s body rejecting Professor Stein’s atoms last episode… Now, I’m not exactly expecting hard sci fi from my comic book TV, but still, at some point, it just looks lazy if you’re not even willing to come up with the thinnest of wallpapering over the holes in logic. I try to let it go, but sometimes it feels like the writers aren’t even trying, in a mildly insulting-to-the-audience way. Comic book writers have had to nerf their heros since forever. It can be done. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/356 "2015-02-19T00:39:09Z")
While I am pretty sure that the brand of whisky Wells and Stein drank doesn’t exist (Auchinbach), it was obviously supposed to be an 18 year old Single Malt and they put ice cubes in it??? Where is the believability factor? :eek: 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/357 "2015-02-19T02:42:08Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > While I am pretty sure that the brand of whisky Wells and Stein drank doesn’t exist (Auchinbach), it was obviously supposed to be an 18 year old Single Malt and they put ice cubes in it??? > > Where is the believability factor? :eek: 😃 What kind of single malt would have a name like that? It sounds … Austrian, or something. What is it, German Scotch? Maybe it comes from one of those made-up countries so common in comics. It _did_ look like a single malt, though. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/358 "2015-02-19T04:42:58Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > While I am pretty sure that the brand of whisky Wells and Stein drank doesn’t exist (Auchinbach), it was obviously supposed to be an 18 year old Single Malt and they put ice cubes in it??? > > Where is the believability factor? :eek: 😃 I’m pretty sure Wells drank his neat - so only Stein likes his booze cold. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 7:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/359 "2015-02-19T07:28:03Z")
So he drugged the ice and not the booze. At least that way you don’t waste the whole bottle. ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 9:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/360 "2015-02-19T09:25:44Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > While I am pretty sure that the brand of whisky Wells and Stein drank doesn’t exist (Auchinbach), it was obviously supposed to be an 18 year old Single Malt and they put ice cubes in it??? > > Where is the believability factor? :eek: 😃 > [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > What kind of single malt would have a name like that? It sounds … Austrian, or something. What is it, German Scotch? > > Maybe it comes from one of those made-up countries so common in comics. > > It _did_ look like a single malt, though. There is a very fine whisky out there called Auchentoshan, which might have been the inspiration for the name. ---
**Author:** ![Habeed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a587f6/32.png) [@Habeed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Habeed)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/361 "2015-02-19T15:35:03Z")
Yup. One encounter was with a metahuman who can turn into a beatdown squad of a bunch of guys. So Barry is getting his ass handed to him by a squad of 8 guys kicking him, and I’m like “really, now. Why doesn’t he use his super speed to avoid getting punched in the first place”. For that matter, I recall him encountering another metahuman with armored skin. He needed to run super fast to punch him hard enough. That’s not how physics work, but why didn’t he just get some kind of heavy cable and wrap the guy up in it with super speed instead… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=19)