# Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818 "2014-10-09T01:14:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/382 "2015-03-20T03:23:41Z")
How do we know that there’s going to be a reset button? We still don’t know whether time travel here is, as Cisco put it, _Terminator_-style or _Back to the Future_-style. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/383 "2015-03-20T03:24:27Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > I think this may be the worst reset button in recent history Voyager’s “Year from Hell” was far more egregious - atleast with this one it wasn’t intentional and the previews show it as having some interesting side affects. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/384 "2015-03-20T13:30:23Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > How do we know that there’s going to be a reset button? We still don’t know whether time travel here is, as Cisco put it, _Terminator_-style or _Back to the Future_-style. It seems more Quantum Leap style since there aren’t two Barrys (at least there doesn’t seem to be). He essentially replaced himself. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/385 "2015-03-20T13:38:10Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > It seems more Quantum Leap style since there aren’t two Barrys (at least there doesn’t seem to be). He essentially replaced himself. which means there’s another Barry that’s going to be _really_ confused when he lands in tomorrow. Unless you;'re saying the two merged - which wouldn’t work as they would have merged at the beginning as well before the events of today happened Unless you’re saying its a groundhog day or causality loop. I have a headache now. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2015, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/386 "2015-03-20T13:45:42Z")
> [@Uniqueorn](#): > > While I am pretty sure that the brand of whisky Wells and Stein drank doesn’t exist (Auchinbach), it was obviously supposed to be an 18 year old Single Malt and they put ice cubes in it??? > > Where is the believability factor? :eek: 😃 With a cask strength single malt a wee dram of water can open it up and enhance the flavor. Sometimes a single ice cube can suffice, although it’s more water than I’d want to use. Tastes can vary. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/387 "2015-03-21T00:03:47Z")
Something tells me the “time biting back” will involve Barry getting a bit to fresh with Iris in front of Eddie. Awkward. Also, Barry’s dealing with the Weather Guy ahead of schedule will cut into Dr. Wells’s Cisco killin’ time so he’s going to be actively fucking with Barry as revenge. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/388 "2015-03-21T00:14:40Z")
> [@Johnny\_Q](#): > > Something tells me the “time biting back” will involve Barry getting a bit to fresh with Iris in front of Eddie. Awkward. > > Also, Barry’s dealing with the Weather Guy ahead of schedule will cut into Dr. Wells’s Cisco killin’ time so he’s going to be actively fucking with Barry as revenge. Even if he were aware of the changed timeline, why would that be? He seemed genuinely regretful that Cisco had learned his secret, and thus had to die. If Cisco doesn’t learn his secret, then everyone is happy. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/389 "2015-03-21T00:43:29Z")
> [@simster](#): > > which means there’s another Barry that’s going to be _really_ confused when he lands in tomorrow. > > Unless you;'re saying the two merged - which wouldn’t work as they would have merged at the beginning as well before the events of today happened > > Unless you’re saying its a groundhog day or causality loop. > > I have a headache now. Yeah basically I’m saying he merged. His present self essentially replaced his past self in the past. I think time travel and headaches go arm and arm 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/390 "2015-03-21T02:16:45Z")
Dear CW: I have disabled my adblocker at your request, so that I can once again watch _Arrow_ and _The Flash_ online. And, honestly, I wouldn’t mind watching the completely uninteresting, repetitive commercials for products I am never going to purchase, because I really like your shows. Except … I would love it if your damned ads would work correctly. For example, load properly. When I get to a commercial break, and have to reload the whole page after staring at a “loading” animation for two minutes, and then click the “resume” button, the timing of the commercial breaks is fouled up for the remainder of the program. When I click “resume”, your video player jumps me a spot a few seconds before the commercial break … and then the program continues playing without those commercials. At least not where they’re supposed to be. Instead, they break in in completely inappropriate places, like right in the middle of a character’s line of dialogue. This is the entire reason I use an adblocker. Not because I have any inherent aversion to advertisements, but because online advertisements that are hosted on third-party servers invariably intolerably degrade the performance of the Web site I’m actually trying to view. They do this by completely preventing the page I want to view from loading, due to the adserver being down, or experiencing network interruptions between the adserver and my computer. And they create the problems I’m now experiencing with trying to watch your programming. Sincerely, Mister Rik ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/391 "2015-03-21T02:49:47Z")
Something I maybe missed… Cisco makes a big deal about how the forcefield wasn’t interrupted even for a moment, suggesting the “Reverse Flash” _couldn’t_ have gotten through it to attack Wells. And so Cisco fiddles around until he discovers the prerecorded 3D image of the Reverse-Flash – which stares at where Doctor Wells would have been sitting, and gives a canned reply on schedule, and then lunges forward as if to grab, and so on. Right? So – what happened, there? Just like Cisco figured, the “Reverse-Flash” of course didn’t get through the uninterrupted forcefield to grab Wells and drag him in. So how did _Wells_ get through that uninterrupted forcefield? (And if you say _well, he’s the Reverse-Flash, and so moves fast enough to pass right through an uninterrupted forcefield,_ then why didn’t Cisco think so to begin with?) ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/392 "2015-03-21T05:51:37Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > So how did _Wells_ get through that uninterrupted forcefield? I think he said something like Wells included a back door in the system to allow it, and that’s why Wells came in to admit everything - because that discovery meant he’d been found out by Cisco to be behind it. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/393 "2015-03-25T04:54:07Z")
All fixed. Mostly. Wells needs to stop killing people. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/394 "2015-03-25T05:02:35Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > All fixed. Mostly. > > Wells needs to stop killing people. Pffff, like **THAT’S** gonna happen. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/395 "2015-03-25T07:54:57Z")
I guess the time travel was _Quantum Leap_-style after all. I’m a little disappointed about the reset button, but it wasn’t a complete _Star Trek_-style reset. There was still character development and plot advancement so I’m still mostly happy. Plus we got to see more of how Professor Zoom is a really, really bad guy. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/396 "2015-03-25T12:57:49Z")
How did Wells/Reverse Flash know that the reporter suspected him? Did I miss something, or was that not explained? ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/397 "2015-03-25T13:17:42Z")
Did Cisco’s brother pass out from the pain, or did Cisco whisper Barry’s identity to Snart? I’m guessing that’s the case, because otherwise the brother also knows who the Flash is. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/398 "2015-03-25T14:42:49Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > How did Wells/Reverse Flash know that the reporter suspected him? Did I miss something, or was that not explained? I was wondering about that. I think when Wells finally let Barry talk to him about his alternate day, he probably mentioned the snoopy reporter who had been following Wells, and hence Barry. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/399 "2015-03-25T17:54:00Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I was wondering about that. I think when Wells finally let Barry talk to him about his alternate day, he probably mentioned the snoopy reporter who had been following Wells, and hence Barry. If that’s the case, then Wells would suspect that Barry would suspect him. I think it’s more likely that Wells, who is a genius with enormous resources and some ability to get information from the future, just found out some other way, and does NOT know that Barry knew the reporter was snooping around (which, after all, he only found out about in a very random fashion). ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/400 "2015-03-25T18:21:18Z")
Isn’t it ironic that for all the bitching and borderline gloating about the trouble Barry got in for altering the timeline, Wells only got Barry suspicious when he himself messed with the Natural Order. Had he folowed his own advice and let things unfold as they did before, Barry would’ve never suspected. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/401 "2015-03-25T22:46:39Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > If that’s the case, then Wells would suspect that Barry would suspect him. I think it’s more likely that Wells, who is a genius with enormous resources and some ability to get information from the future, just found out some other way, and does NOT know that Barry knew the reporter was snooping around (which, after all, he only found out about in a very random fashion). I hope this is the case. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=21)