# Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818 "2014-10-09T01:14:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/422 "2015-04-01T14:59:03Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Can’t believe Mark Hamill said that. I’ve been sporadically watching the show and keeping up on the plot, but I may have missed something. What did he say? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/423 "2015-04-01T15:03:46Z")
“_I_ am your father.” ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/424 "2015-04-01T15:04:49Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > I’ve been sporadically watching the show and keeping up on the plot, but I may have missed something. What did he say? When he revealed to his Trickster protege, “I am your father!” ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/425 "2015-04-01T19:23:58Z")
> [@Cartoonacy](#): > > And remember, Joe’s partner Eddie Thawne is Harrison/Eobard’s ancestor. Eobard may know something about the future – such as that Joe is destined to save Eddie’s life at some point, so therefore he can threaten Joe but not allow him to come to harm. > > Which brings up another point: Is Iris also his ancestor? Only the man in yellow knows for sure. In the comics, there was an utterly terrible (and by Mark Waid, yet! Which is unusual because his Flash run really revitalized the character) story where Barry’s long-lost twin brother was given up for adoption and raised by the Thwane (sp) family, so Eobard is Barry’s long-lost nephew. Iris is only an “Aunt-In-Law” so to speak–no genetic ancestory. But that’s based only on one really bad run. Frankly, I’d retcon it, if the pre-52 universe ever comes back. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/426 "2015-04-01T19:30:48Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > “_I_ am your father.” OK, I may have to watch the full episode for that line. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/427 "2015-04-02T00:08:12Z")
The other line I’d hoped he would say (but didn’t): “Why… so… serious?” ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/428 "2015-04-02T00:14:40Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > One nice callback to the original Flash series- when Barry ran through the truck, the first thing he said was “That was weird”, which as I recall is exactly what John Wesley Shipp said the first time \*he \*phased in the 90’s series. Which was also the **only** time John Wesley Shipp phased in the 90s series, as I recall. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/429 "2015-04-02T00:50:49Z")
> [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](#): > > The other line I’d hoped he would say (but didn’t): “Why… so… serious?” I was afraid he’d mention Fava beans and chianti. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/430 "2015-04-02T03:14:37Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > OK, I may have to watch the full episode for that line. 🙂 Take note of the music when he says it. It’s very imperial. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/431 "2015-04-03T20:31:07Z")
Wouldn’t be surprised if James Jesse was lying to Trickster #2. (Whose name was Alex Walker. Wouldn’t be surprised if in the first draft the character’s name was Luke.) If this show were a soap opera, if he weren’t lying, it would then turn out that Alex’s mom was lying to James Jesse and somebody else was his dad. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/432 "2015-04-03T20:50:35Z")
> [@Dendarii\_Dame](#): > > Wouldn’t be surprised if James Jesse was lying to Trickster #2. (Whose name was Alex Walker. Axel, not Alex. He’s from the comics. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/433 "2015-04-03T20:52:52Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > Which was also the **only** time John Wesley Shipp phased in the 90s series, as I recall. Yeah. As I remember it, the writers were afraid of making the TV Flash _too_ powerful, but they wanted to appease the comic book fans who were asking to see him do more stunts like vibrating through walls and running over water and up buildings. So they inserted that one scene as a peace offering. ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/434 "2015-04-03T20:59:41Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > In the comics, there was an utterly terrible (and by Mark Waid, yet! Which is unusual because his Flash run really revitalized the character) story where Barry’s long-lost twin brother was given up for adoption and raised by the Thwane (sp) family, so Eobard is Barry’s long-lost nephew. > > Iris is only an “Aunt-In-Law” so to speak–no genetic ancestory. > > But that’s based only on one really bad run. Frankly, I’d retcon it, if the pre-52 universe ever comes back. Mark Waid is my favorite contemporary comic book writer (I loved _Ruse_), but his _Cobalt Blue_ storyline and the introduction of the “speed force” were almost painful to read. I know Iris would be no direct relation to Eobard in the comics ([she’s not even a blood relation to Wally](http://www.comicvine.com/the-flash-203-the-flash-s-wife-is-a-two-timer/4000-11254/)), but I was referring to TV show continuity. We don’t yet know whether Iris will end up with Eddie or Barry, if either. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/435 "2015-04-04T10:01:50Z")
> [@Cartoonacy](#): > > Mark Waid is my favorite contemporary comic book writer (I loved _Ruse_), but his _Cobalt Blue_ storyline and the introduction of the “speed force” were almost painful to read. > > I know Iris would be no direct relation to Eobard in the comics ([she’s not even a blood relation to Wally](http://www.comicvine.com/the-flash-203-the-flash-s-wife-is-a-two-timer/4000-11254/)), but I was referring to TV show continuity. We don’t yet know whether Iris will end up with Eddie or Barry, if either. Or both. Have her marry Eddie and then let him die in the line of duty, and marry Barry afterward. This lets her have a grown, caucasian nephew named Wally from Eddie’s side of the family when they want to add Kid Flash. That’s way down the road, though. They haven’t even explained how he always has the suit handy despite leaving it at S.T.A.R. Labs all the time. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/436 "2015-04-04T11:26:56Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > They haven’t even explained how he always has the suit handy despite leaving it at S.T.A.R. Labs all the time. I thought it was obvious that he just runs there and puts it on. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/437 "2015-04-04T13:26:18Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I thought it was obvious that he just runs there and puts it on. He has a second version shrunk into a ring. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/438 "2015-04-04T14:32:17Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > He has a second version shrunk into a ring. Maybe Ray Palmer (Atom) will make that for him. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/439 "2015-04-04T15:43:16Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > I thought it was obvious that he just runs there and puts it on. Related, I’ve noticed Barry sometimes gets phone calls from people asking ~“Why aren’t you here yet?” and he replies ~“I’m leaving now!” Then he Flashes over, which you’d think would make people wonder how he gets there so fast. I’d kinda like him to say “I’ll in transit, be there in five!”, then continue to waste time for 4 minutes and 58 seconds. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/440 "2015-04-05T12:29:42Z")
> [@epbrown01](#): > > Or both. Have her marry Eddie and then let him die in the line of duty, and marry Barry afterward. This lets her have a grown, caucasian nephew named Wally from Eddie’s side of the family when they want to add Kid Flash. Haven’t we already met Wally West, or at least gotten a reference to him, as Iris’s cousin? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2015, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/441 "2015-04-05T15:03:58Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Haven’t we already met Wally West, or at least gotten a reference to him, as Iris’s cousin? We’ve gotten a reference to a cousin from Keystone, but that was Ronnie Raymond, introduced **to** Iris as Caitlin’s cousin from Keystone. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=23)