# Flash: new TV show (boxed spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818 "2014-10-09T01:14:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 31
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/602 "2015-05-20T20:41:46Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Can you elaborate on the Killer Frost thing because I completely missed it. > > Re: Barry. It struct me strange as well that they seemed to dismiss the fact hat he would change reality for everyone else so cavalierly to the point where I started to assume that the idea was there would be two time lines, theirs and a new one where the mom lived. Otherwise it seemed strange that everyone was like “Barry, you do what you think is right.” There was a flash of Caitlin looking all superpowered while Barry was going super fast to trigger the singularity. ---
**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/603 "2015-05-20T23:47:32Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There was a flash of Caitlin looking all superpowered while Barry was going super fast to trigger the singularity. Ah, thanks. My DVR was very pixelated for that sequence for some reason so I couldn’t really see anything. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/604 "2015-05-21T00:19:15Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > Ah, thanks. My DVR was very pixelated for that sequence for some reason so I couldn’t really see anything. This page has the shot you missed (scroll down): > **[The Flash: First Look At Danielle Panabaker As Killer Frost](https://comicbook.com/comicbook/news/the-flash-first-look-at-danielle-panabaker-as-killer-frost/)** > > During tonight’s brilliant season finale of The Flash viewers got to see past events in the Scarlet Speedster’s life when he traveled within the Speed Force as well as revealing future events. One being, our first look at Doctor Caitlin Snow... I missed it too, and I don’t think I would have realized that was Caitlin. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/605 "2015-05-21T02:08:13Z")
Huh, it sure seemed a lot more obvious watching it live but i guess that really doesn’t look much like her. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/606 "2015-05-21T02:32:52Z")
I, too, suffered a pixelation problem during Flash’s run and so missed Killer Frost. I caught her upon re-watching the episode, now that I knew what to look for. One other thing I caught after re-watching: Future Barry had on a slightly different uniform. It was brighter red and the chest logo had a white background. In other words, it matched the picture from the future newspaper (as well as being closer to the comic book version). ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/607 "2015-05-21T12:51:42Z")
I’m not into comics enough to know who Killer Frost was (until I read about her on the net). The quickness of the scene didn’t help. But it makes sense - if Cisco got superpowers, it makes sense that Caitlin did to. And with a last name of Snow odds are the superpower will be cold based 😉 Eddie should have got an emergency vasectomy rather than killing himself… (though I do wonder who he has/had a kid with. The dancer?) Brian ---
**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/608 "2015-05-21T12:57:54Z")
> [@Habeed](#): > > I guess that unstable wormhole sucking up the planet as a way of balancing the books in the face of temporal paradoxes does sorta make sense… That’s what I thought too. I figured that the wormhole was a result of the paradox. Either Barry can’t stop it and it sucks in the whole world and spits out a reset world. Or Barry CAN stop it and the paradox is stabilized in some way, allowing the world to continue as it is despite the Reverse Flash never technically having existing. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/609 "2015-05-21T13:19:27Z")
One note, while I did correctly guess Eddie would kill himself to stop Eobarde, Eddie’s body did get sucked up into the wormhole. As any comics/sci-fi fan knows, those things are magical, so we’ve seen neither the last of Eddie Thawne nor Eobarde Thawne. The only question now is how long until either (both?) are re-introduced next season? I’m putting the over/under at 3 episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/610 "2015-05-21T14:17:11Z")
Okay… \ Questions! \ I am not as up to canon on Flash as on other DC characters, so a few insights, please… other than Golden Age Flash’s helmet flying out of the wormhole as fan service, what could it, and Thawne’s comment “it means it’s time for me to go” mean in story context? I concur that the magical wormhole is going to fix pretty much everything and both Eddie and his pesky g-g-g-g-g-g-grandson will be back, and that because R-Flash still exists, nothing much will change in the character or story plot, except whatever the writers want to push around a bit. Also, how long was Hal Jordan missing before he returned to Earth? ---
**Author:** ![Cartoonacy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/848f3c/32.png) [@Cartoonacy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartoonacy)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/611 "2015-05-21T20:37:35Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Also, how long was Hal Jordan missing before he returned to Earth? DC Comics original 1960 version: Not at all. Abin Sur gave him the ring and basic instructions, then died. The Guardians monitored him secretly for a year before contacting him. They let him learn his way by trial and error. DC Comics revised 1990 version: About three months. Hal Jordan was in jail for 90 days on a drunk driving charge. The Guardians abducted him from his cell, leaving a duplicate behind, and took him to Oa for training. The 2011 movie: I’m not sure, but it seemed like only a few hours tops. No one back on Earth appeared to have noticed he was gone. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/612 "2015-05-22T00:05:42Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Okay… \ Questions! \ > > I am not as up to canon on Flash as on other DC characters, so a few insights, please… other than > > Golden Age Flash’s > > helmet flying out of the wormhole as fan service, what could it, and Thawne’s comment “it means it’s time for me to go” mean in story context? Could mean a number of things: Possibly Thawne has encountered helmet’s owner before, and deciding to get out of Dodge before said owner turns up. Possibly Thawne didn’t recognize the helmet, but merely recognized that something weird was happening, and the sooner he leaves the better. The actual existence of the helmet may mean that the show is going to invoke superhero from a) the past, or b) from an alternate universe, or it could be a throw-away joke (helmet turns out to be from a FTD display that got caught up in a time wave). We’ll find out. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/613 "2015-05-22T02:45:32Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > Could mean a number of things: Possibly Thawne has encountered helmet’s owner before, and deciding to get out of Dodge before said owner turns up. Possibly Thawne didn’t recognize the helmet, but merely recognized that something weird was happening, and the sooner he leaves the better. The actual existence of the helmet may mean that the show is going to invoke superhero from a) the past, or b) from an alternate universe, or it could be a throw-away joke (helmet turns out to be from a FTD display that got caught up in a time wave). We’ll find out. While I would love for him to be brought in as a mentor, these shows, both Marvel and DC, like to throw in visual and verbal Easter eggs to comic fans that are never followed up. **Amateur Barbarian** , while I’ve far from an encyclopaedic knowledge of comics, I’m fairly certain that Eobard is most closely associated with Barry (and Wally), not Jay. Not that they’ve never met, but the Reverse Flash is the (Barry Allen) Flash’s ‘Joker’. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/614 "2015-05-22T04:38:42Z")
> [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](#): > > apparently, Cisco is some kind of metahuman, capable of sensing alternate timelines or something like that. So … which DC Comics super-powered character is Cisco going to become? “Alternate Timeline Viewing Man” doesn’t seem to be a name in the DC canon. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/615 "2015-05-22T05:11:55Z")
> [@tracer](#): > > So … which DC Comics super-powered character is Cisco going to become? > “Alternate Timeline Viewing Man” doesn’t seem to be a name in the DC canon. > **[Vibe (character)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cisco_Ramon)** > > Vibe (Francisco Paco "Cisco" Ramon) is a fictional superhero appearing in American comic books published by DC Comics. > He has the metahuman ability to emit powerful vibratory shock waves. Introduced in 1984 as Paco Ramone, he joined the new Justice League formed in Detroit and became the first member to be killed in action. In The New 52 continuity reboot, his powers were redefined to involve interdimensional physics, posing a significant threat to characters like the Flash. > Carlos Valdes port... I think his powers might be a little different than the comic book version. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@CaptainAmerica\_1987](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptainAmerica_1987)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/616 "2015-05-22T05:16:44Z")
They should have hired Dr. Micho Kaku as the writer or science advisor for the show because all the confusion about time travel could have made more sense. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/617 "2015-05-22T13:56:12Z")
I just hope they give Cisco that costume… ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/618 "2015-05-22T14:46:22Z")
If you want to watch the speed force scene in slow motion: > **[See The Flash's Speed Force Scene (And All Its Easter Eggs) In Slow-Mo](https://gizmodo.com/see-the-flashs-speed-force-scene-and-all-its-easter-eg-1706128289)** > > If you watched this week’s finale of The Flash, you know that Barry Allen traveled into the Speed Force, which allowed him to run through time itself, amidst images of the past and the future. As such, it was jam-packed with fun comics easter eggs,... ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818/619 "2015-07-20T19:30:26Z")
Spoiler for next season. Don’t want to say much more for the spoiler averse. [spoiler][The Flash’s Rick Cosnett Joins ABC’s Quantico as Gay FBI Analyst](http://tvline.com/2015/07/20/rick-cosnett-quantico-cast-gay-analyst-abc/) Eddie won’t be back, at least right away. His resurrection will have to wait at least until _Quantico_ is cancelled (or he is killed in that).[/spoiler] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flash-new-tv-show-boxed-spoilers/700818.md?page=30)