# Flip chart is offensive **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [August 23, 2017, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439 "2017-08-23T07:49:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/21 "2017-08-24T04:51:51Z")
> [@Sahirrnee](#): > > [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75CUyfuOtY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75CUyfuOtY) > > Not the flip chart itself, it’s the word FLIP that is offensive. > > Just as the word thug has become racist, FLIP has become offensive. > > No more wearing FLIP flops, or FLIPping pancakes. No more FLIPping someone the bird, or FLIPping houses for a living. > > Just letting y’alll know so you can update your PC handbooks. Just 'cause some guy has been videotaped saying this happened, doesn’t mean it actually happened. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 9:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/22 "2017-08-24T09:13:11Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > I’m not watching an 8 minute video for whatever is pissing you off. Link to a specific time or risk a Tsk’ing. Why are you assuming it pisses me off? ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 10:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/23 "2017-08-24T10:22:36Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Just 'cause some guy has been videotaped saying this happened, doesn’t mean it actually happened. Ya think? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/24 "2017-08-24T11:08:50Z")
I’m just glad that Flip Wilson isn’t alive to see this. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/25 "2017-08-24T11:10:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m just glad that Flip Wilson isn’t alive to see this. > [@kayaker](#): > > Good thing Geraldine isn’t around to hear this. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/26 "2017-08-24T11:47:38Z")
:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/27 "2017-08-24T13:03:21Z")
> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#): > > And what about people who drive Audis, huh? > > Manifold, indeed. 😉 Audis have manifolds. ---
**Author:** ![ioioio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ioioio/32/316_2.png) [@ioioio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ioioio)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/28 "2017-08-24T13:26:18Z")
Flip charts are retarded. ---
**Author:** ![blindboyard](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindboyard/32/2833_2.png) [@blindboyard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blindboyard)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/29 "2017-08-24T13:33:08Z")
Just call it a fuck chart. Or a waste of paper. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/30 "2017-08-24T13:36:48Z")
> [@Sahirrnee](#): > > Why are you assuming it pisses me off? Poe’s Law? Your title reads like the title from those who rant about PC people. “Can you believe it? Now \_\_\_ is offensive!” If you’re making fun of people who think that, then more power to ya. But that’s getting to be a bit more meta than people normally expect, I think. Just my 2 cents. ---
**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/31 "2017-08-24T14:37:49Z")
For many different types of electronic controllers (environmental controls, fire alarm, intrusion detection, etc.), it is quite common to refer to the main circuit board as the “motherboard” and the modules that connect to them as “daughterboards.” This has always raised my hackles. Aren’t “fatherboards” equally worthy? What’s the problem in having a fatherboard with daughterboards? Can’t motherboards have sonboards? I just don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/32 "2017-08-24T14:51:19Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Meanwhile, I swear that there is a bottle of Spic and Span sitting on the desk as I write this. Soon to be Latinx and Span? Is [Calgon still the ancient Chinese secret?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJP5f-fsHrs) ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/33 "2017-08-24T15:23:27Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Poe’s Law? Your title reads like the title from those who rant about PC people. “Can you believe it? Now \_\_\_ is offensive!” > > If you’re making fun of people who think that, then more power to ya. But that’s getting to be a bit more meta than people normally expect, I think. > > Just my 2 cents. I was bored and bullshit amuses me. Or more accurately, responses to the bullshit amuse me. There are more than a few clever people on the board who post witty responses. It never occurred to me that anybody would take this thread seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/34 "2017-08-24T18:59:40Z")
Thug is racist now? Have the South Asians [objected](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thug)? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/35 "2017-08-24T19:47:04Z")
> [@Sunspace](#): > > Thug is racist now? Have the South Asians [objected](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thug)? Yes, it’s often used as a dog whistle for young black men. No, the word’s origins don’t change that. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/36 "2017-08-25T01:41:56Z")
> [@ZonexandScout](#): > > For many different types of electronic controllers (environmental controls, fire alarm, intrusion detection, etc.), it is quite common to refer to the main circuit board as the “motherboard” and the modules that connect to them as “daughterboards.” > > This has always raised my hackles. Aren’t “fatherboards” equally worthy? What’s the problem in having a fatherboard with daughterboards? Can’t motherboards have sonboards? > > I just don’t get it. Good question. But given that daughterboards plug into motherboards, sometimes via cable but often directly with conductive tabs into slots, I’m not sure how we can rename these things without arousing (heh :)) the anti-incest thought police. Whatever you do, don’t plug the Oedipus board into the Jocasta board; blindness and despoliation is sure to follow. Plus extra sticky magic smoke leaking out. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![El\_DeLuxo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_deluxo/32/9043_2.png) [@El\_DeLuxo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_DeLuxo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/37 "2017-08-25T03:30:38Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Yes, it’s often used as a dog whistle for young black men. No, the word’s origins don’t change that. It’s also a perfectly good word for a person of any race who practices certain forms of criminal behavior, mainly strong-arm robbery and physically harming or intimidating other people, without reference to the complexion or ancestry of the subject. Actually, it’s meant that since at least the 1930s.\* The standard usage isn’t a “racist dog whistle”, it’s conventional English, and to hell anyone who calls me racist for calling a thug a thug. I don’t give a damn what violent crooks or word precriptivists think of my vocabulary. \*Early union organizers were wont to describe anti-worker vigilantes and hired strikebreakers from the Pinkerton Detective Agency as “gun thugs”, and the use of “thug” to describe a violent criminal can be sighted in English-language crime fiction from Edward Anderson’s 1937 \*Thieves Like Us \*onward. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/38 "2017-08-25T03:51:13Z")
> [@DLuxN8R-13](#): > > Actually, it’s meant that since at least the 1930s. And “gay” meant happy. Times change, language evolves. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/39 "2017-08-25T06:18:25Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > And “gay” meant happy. Times change, language evolves. So “thug” is now soley a racist slur, and cannot be used in any other context? Like, I’m watching a game and I see a player sucker punch someone, and say, “Milan Lucic is a fucking thug”. That’s no longer appropriate? I don’t buy it. :dubious: I can definetly see cases where it is indeed used as in place of the n-word or whatever. But I have yet to see “thug” going away entirely. Unless you have proof to the contrary, I remain unconvinced. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2017, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439/40 "2017-08-25T10:37:01Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Is [Calgon still the ancient Chinese secret?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJP5f-fsHrs) To be fair, those ads are fairly questionable in hindsight, along with those Pearl Cream ads. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > So “thug” is now soley a racist slur, and cannot be used in any other context? Like, I’m watching a game and I see a player sucker punch someone, and say, “Milan Lucic is a fucking thug”. That’s no longer appropriate? > > I don’t buy it. :dubious: I can definetly see cases where it is indeed used as in place of the n-word or whatever. But I have yet to see “thug” going away entirely. Unless you have proof to the contrary, I remain unconvinced. “Thug” is not \*\*solely \*\*racist, but of late its usage seems to have been almost entirely and not always justifiably applied to young black men. If anything, the problem is that it _isn’t_ used (or very rarely) for young white men engaging in similarly objectionable behaviors. See also: people “looting” vs “finding supplies” in the Katrina floods. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flip-chart-is-offensive/794439.md?page=3)