# Floater, WTH is WRONG with you??!?!?!?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638 "2011-11-11T20:59:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/61 "2011-11-12T15:00:41Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Czarcasm made a dick of himself by being his usual apologist self for non action by the Mods. What the hell is up with that, anyway. If ever there were a mod who should be demoted to civilian cheerleader… ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/62 "2011-11-12T17:20:16Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Floater made a dick of himself by posting the link in an inappropriate way. > > Czarcasm made a dick of himself by being his usual apologist self for non action by the Mods. > > SamClem has restored some sanity. > > Life goes on. I’m sorry if instant gratification wasn’t available to you, asshole. What I said made perfect sense-if the mod in question isn’t online, then she _can’t_ see any demands from posters, _no matter how many times said posters make said demands._ Furthermore, it makes perfect sense to anyone capable of thinking beyond “I don’t care-I want it now!” that if a moderator doesn’t immediately do vanity searches after every damn decision they make, there’s a damn good possibility that they might not know that a small bunch of posters are stomping their feet over in ATMB, which is why I suggested sending an IM to her so that she’ll know something’s up once she gets online. And this, “I’m glad the mods _finally_ did something!” crap? It is not a fucking group-mind, and it takes time to hash out what they are going to decide to do, o.k.? There wasn’t any “Non action by the mods”-there apparently was plenty of action behind the scenes that was necessary before the action you finally saw happened. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/63 "2011-11-12T17:23:38Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > What the hell is up with that, anyway. If ever there were a mod who should be demoted to civilian cheerleader… I think I know why _you’re_ pissed at me-After your claim that you weren’t calling for a banning, I referred people to the title of the thread you made that claim in: _Ban Floater. Or at least action him._ ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/64 "2011-11-12T18:36:28Z")
Now, I could use their logic and ask why they aren’t immediately responding to my words, but I can see that at the time of this post both **Acid lamp** and **rachelellogram** are not signed on to this board, so that would be a foolish thing to do, wouldn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/65 "2011-11-12T19:25:22Z")
I’m very surprised and pleased at the warning for **Floater**. I didn’t really think it was a warnable offense, much less worthy of banning him. It was just a jerk move, and as such very worthy of the Pit. Now that my stomach has recovered I’m not nearly as upset by it as I was, but I still think it was a jerk move. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/66 "2011-11-12T19:51:16Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think I know why _you’re_ pissed at me-After your claim that you weren’t calling for a banning, I referred people to the title of the thread you made that claim in: > _Ban Floater. Or at least action him._ “Ban [… o]r at least action” is not necessarily calling for a banning, but rather calling for action under a kind of which banning is one instance. (I suppose it’s calling for a banning in a sense similar to how “you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here” is telling someone to go home.) You’re right, anyway, that people insisted upon action with unreasonable haste. But responding with pissy little rants (1) won’t help and (2) will only make you look like a pissy little ranter who can’t let utterly routine (if unhelpful) moderator criticism slide. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/67 "2011-11-12T19:56:20Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > “Ban [… o]r at least action” is not necessarily calling for a banning, but rather calling for action under a kind of which banning is one instance. (I suppose it’s calling for a banning in a sense similar to how “you don’t have to go home, but you can’t stay here” is telling someone to go home.) > > You’re right, anyway, that people insisted upon action with unreasonable haste. But responding with pissy little rants (1) won’t help and (2) will only make you look like a pissy little ranter who can’t let utterly routine (if unhelpful) moderator criticism slide. Just a little self-defense. Now that I’m a poster again, I _do_ have that right, don’t I? ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/68 "2011-11-12T20:47:02Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Now, I could use their logic and ask why they aren’t immediately responding to my words, but I can see that at the time of this post both **Acid lamp** and **rachelellogram** are not signed on to this board, so that would be a foolish thing to do, wouldn’t it? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/69 "2011-11-12T20:58:25Z")
> [@Acid\_Lamp](#): > > Poster was an ass, The rest of the outrage over the link contents is just stupid. It only contains a few photos of a clinical dissection, or taxidermy preparation of a cat. It doesn’t show anything remotely gory, just a couple of skinning photos. Get over it. No, people are pissed because he didn’t let them know ahead of time what the fuck it was, dumbass. It was a thread about a stray cat being rescued. **Floater** came in, and just posted a link of a cat being dissected and skinned. Nothing else, not even a comment. If he had posted that in a thread about dissections, that’d be one thing. But this was a thread about taking care of a stray cat. WHY did he post it? What was the point of it? > [@rachelellogram](#): > > What the hell is up with that, anyway. If ever there were a mod who should be demoted to civilian cheerleader… **Czarcasm** ’s no longer a mod, although he certainly acts like one. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/70 "2011-11-12T21:55:54Z")
I agree that the joke was in poor taste, but some of the histrionics are a bit much. The linked web site is itself a joke. It ends with [this pic](http://media.adamdodson.org/var/albums/Dogs/dogs%20cook%20too.jpg), for Christ’s sake. (Safe for work single picture, not the web site itself, of a poor little live dog sitting in a microwave). It’s just gallows humor. It’s not _really_ advocating cooking cats, but it does have a couple of photos of dead cats that looked like they were taken in a college biology lab. That ain’t goatse, and the overreaction says a good deal about the sensitivity of people who love cats perhaps a bit too much. ---
**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/71 "2011-11-12T22:08:44Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > I agree that the joke was in poor taste, but some of the histrionics are a bit much. The linked web site is itself a joke. It ends with [this pic](http://media.adamdodson.org/var/albums/Dogs/dogs%20cook%20too.jpg), for Christ’s sake. (Safe for work single picture, not the web site itself, of a poor little live dog sitting in a microwave). It’s just gallows humor. It’s not _really_ advocating cooking cats, but it does have a couple of photos of dead cats that looked like they were taken in a college biology lab. That ain’t goatse, and the overreaction says a good deal about the sensitivity of people who love cats perhaps a bit too much. Will you please read what we were upset about? When the link was first posted, there was no warning and no 2-click. It was just a link, placed in a thread where a poster had found a stray cat. It was disturbing when you weren’t expecting it. I still don’t understand why some people feel the need to ruin things for other people. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/72 "2011-11-12T22:10:59Z")
> [@SnakesCatLady](#): > > Will you please read what we were upset about? When the link was first posted, there was no warning and no 2-click. It was just a link, placed in a thread where a poster had found a stray cat. It was disturbing when you weren’t expecting it. Which is precisely why he received a warning, and why almost everyone has agreed that he was threadshitting and acting like a jerk. Still doesn’t explain histrionic wailing and gnashing of teeth that persists in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/73 "2011-11-12T22:25:14Z")
> [@SnakesCatLady](#): > > Will you please read what we were upset about? When the link was first posted, there was no warning and no 2-click. It was just a link, placed in a thread where a poster had found a stray cat. It was disturbing when you weren’t expecting it. > > I still don’t understand why some people feel the need to ruin things for other people. I did read it, I understand the complaints, and I even support them a bit. But people are screaming for banning, they are talking about how “graphic” the “mutilation” is, and there are two threads about it. I’m sorry if unexpectedly seeing a dead animal in a bio lab gives you the vapors, but the response has been disproportionate to the offense. It was gallows humor, and that’s all it ever was. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/74 "2011-11-12T23:00:00Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > It’s not _really_ advocating cooking cats, but it does have a couple of photos of dead cats that looked like they were taken in a college biology lab. That ain’t goatse, and the overreaction says a good deal about the sensitivity of people who love cats perhaps a bit too much. What’s so bad about goatse? The human body is beautiful, man. Maybe you should move back to the Victorian age. > [@mhendo](#): > > Still doesn’t explain histrionic wailing and gnashing of teeth that persists in this thread. Maybe I’m desensitized - which are the histrionic wailings? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/75 "2011-11-12T23:12:54Z")
I don’t think he should be banned. But I definitely think he should have to explain himself – what the fuck was his purpose in doing so? ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/76 "2011-11-12T23:33:18Z")
Good god, it’s gotten so that any expression of strong emotion is labeled hysterical, shrill, histrionic, wailing and gnashing of teeth…let’s all be sure not to have any reactions about anything at all that aren’t Vulcan in their presentation. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/77 "2011-11-12T23:42:13Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Czarcasm** ’s no longer a mod, although he certainly acts like one. Why, because I won’t roll over and “me too!” with the rest of the yahoos when there’s another pile-on in ATMB? If there was anything unreasonable about my posts there feel free to say so, but I am no longer obligated to sit back and listen to people bitch about my daring to have opinions that might favor the Moderators. I am now allowed to bat back the crap that is thrown at me, so unless you’ve got something solid that shows that that I was acting like a Moderator when I was pointing out the obvious I suggest you back off. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/78 "2011-11-13T00:03:03Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Good god, it’s gotten so that any expression of strong emotion is labeled hysterical, shrill, histrionic, wailing and gnashing of teeth…let’s all be sure not to have any reactions about anything at all that aren’t Vulcan in their presentation. It’s the Dope – where there’s no such thing as “the excluded middle”. Everything is always black or white. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/79 "2011-11-13T00:04:21Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Good god, it’s gotten so that any expression of strong emotion is labeled hysterical, shrill, histrionic, wailing and gnashing of teeth…let’s all be sure not to have any reactions about anything at all that aren’t Vulcan in their presentation. But this is different. It’s not the pitting that people are labeling histrionic, it’s the call for his banning. Hell, if you look at the ATMB thread, **Darth Panda** is still advocating suspending him. That’s what’s histrionic. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/80 "2011-11-13T00:11:20Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > But this is different. It’s not the pitting that people are labeling histrionic, it’s the call for his banning. Hell, if you look at the ATMB thread, **Darth Panda** is still advocating suspending him. That’s what’s histrionic. Have other people who engaged in the same behavior been banned or suspended? I’m asking that honestly, I really don’t know. If so, then I think the calls for consistency are not out of line. The ATMB thread is entitled “Ban Floater. OR action him” (emphasis mine). Not “Ban Floater. GODDAMMIT BAN HIM AND IF YOU DON’T YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF POOPY-HEADS.” The first doesn’t strike me as histrionic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638.md?page=5)