# Floater, WTH is WRONG with you??!?!?!?! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 11, 2011, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638 "2011-11-11T20:59:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/121 "2011-11-13T07:30:58Z")
Christ on a kangaroo, you could have ended this quick with “Whoops”. But you didn’t. You are certainly a douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/122 "2011-11-13T07:32:22Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > Christ on a kangaroo, you’re a douchebag. Face it, you mistakenly thought I meant the first jab at me in your post and not the first in the thread itself. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/123 "2011-11-13T07:39:06Z")
No, I get it, you were quoting the first jab you were responding to in your overall point to **A Monkey With a Gun** by quoting what someone else said as context for the tone of your response. But it’s very easy to mistake what you’re saying. There’s no indication of who you’re actually quoting (and hence you could be easily be saying “the first jab in the thread (made by you)” rather than “the first jab in the thread (made by someone else I’m not attributing)”, and for someone not paying full attention could easily mistake you for quoting Monkey. I had to go back to the previous page and search for that quote to confirm that wasn’t going on. How would someone that didn’t specifically remember who said that exact line that you were quoting know it wasn’t also said by Monkey, even when etiquette dictates by default that any additional unattributed quote after another attributed quote is by the same poster? I’m just saying it’s ambiguous enough to be interpreted in a way that’s a breach of etiquette, and would’ve been made more clear if you had actually attributed what’s in the quote box. There’s certainly nothing malicious or deceptive there, just a poor choice to skimp on specificity. The fact that you called me an asshole while I was just trying a rather neutral-languaged attempt at an outside perspective probably means you’re not being too level headed about this issue. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/124 "2011-11-13T07:42:57Z")
**Czarcasm** , I give up. There is nothing to be gained from arguing with you at the moment. I already reported it, and I’ll wait for the mods and the general consensus of posters to chime in before I address this again. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/125 "2011-11-13T07:47:40Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > No, I get it, you were quoting the first jab you were responding to in your overall point to **A Monkey With a Gun** by quoting what someone else said as context for the tone of your response. But it’s very easy to mistake what you’re saying. > > There’s no indication of who you’re actually quoting (and hence you could be easily be saying “the first jab in the thread (made by you)” rather than “the first jab in the thread (made by someone else I’m not attributing)”, and for someone not paying full attention could easily mistake you for quoting Monkey. I had to go back to the previous page and search for that quote to confirm that wasn’t going on. How would someone that didn’t specifically remember who said that exact line that you were quoting know it wasn’t also said by Monkey, even when etiquette dictates by default that any additional unattributed quote after another attributed quote is by the same poster? > > I’m just saying it’s ambiguous enough to be interpreted in a way that’s a breach of etiquette, and would’ve been made more clear if you had actually attributed what’s in the quote box. There’s certainly nothing malicious or deceptive there, just a poor choice to skimp on specificity. > > The fact that you called me an asshole while I was just trying a rather neutral-languaged attempt at an outside perspective probably means you’re not being too level headed about this issue. Maybe your saying I fucked up had something to do with my response? While I didn’t attribute a name to the quote, I clearly(in my eyes, anyway) attributed it’s position in the thread, and since the quote followed two _other_ items that had also obviously hadn’t been said by **A Monkey With a Gun** , it should have been clear that in NO way was I implying that it was “the first jab in the thread (made by you)”. edited to add: Why are you concerned about _my_ being level-headed in this thread? Have you read the other posts, or is there some reason you think that, even in The BBQ Pit, I shouldn’t post in the same manner as other posters? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/126 "2011-11-13T07:49:38Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Czarcasm** ’s no longer a mod, although he certainly acts like one. Oh my god, I’m so happy. I had no idea :3 ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/127 "2011-11-13T07:55:22Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > Oh my god, I’m so happy. I had no idea :3 As observant of what’s going on as ever, I see. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/128 "2011-11-13T08:01:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Maybe your saying I fucked up had something to do with my response? While I didn’t attribute a name to the quote, I clearly(in my eyes, anyway) attributed it’s position in the thread, and since the quote followed two _other_ items that had also obviously hadn’t been said by **A Monkey With a Gun** , it should have been clear that in NO way was I implying that it was “the first jab in the thread (made by you)”. And people read the thread over several days. They may not remember who said the specific quote you labelled as the first jab in the thread. Since you’re barking at Monkey, and using the quote to justify your response, it could easily look like he was the one who made the statement. Those other two quotes you reference actually work against you, rather than for you. The fact that you simply used quotation marks to denote those items that other peopler were saying, but used a quote box to indicate the third, specifically makes it look like you were using a quote from Monkey’s post. Otherwise you could simply put all three in quotation marks rather than using a quote box at all. > [@](#): > > edited to add: Why are you concerned about _my_ being level-headed in this thread? Have you read the other posts, or is there some reason you think that, even in The BBQ Pit, I shouldn’t post in the same manner as other posters? I just don’t know why it was justified. I’m not in this debate and we have no history, I just came out to try to clear up what seemed to be a misunderstanding in a way that had no axe to grind and was just trying to offer a neutral observer’s clarification. For you to be in full rabid mode over what constitutes a rather minor, unintentional breach of etiquette makes you look like a crazy person. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/129 "2011-11-13T08:05:21Z")
If you want “level-headed” check out post #121 and #126 for perfect examples. Or you can just focus on my responses and ignore what I am responding to in the first place. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/130 "2011-11-13T08:10:38Z")
I’m not sure why those posts are relevant. I’m just saying you blew up at me when I’m not on their side against you, I’m neutral in this discussion other than specifically trying to clarify that an outside observer could easily misinterpret your post with the quotes. I have no interest in this argument other than to give an opinion on whether or not a specific posting style was a breach of etiquette. Which is why the blowback towards me seemed excessive. But go ahead and keep up the crazy, no big deal to me. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/131 "2011-11-13T08:15:12Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > I’m not sure why those posts are relevant. I’m just saying you blew up at me when I’m not on their side against you, I’m neutral in this discussion other than specifically trying to clarify that an outside observer could easily misinterpret your post with the quotes. I have no interest in this argument other than to give an opinion on whether or not a specific posting style was a breach of etiquette. Which is why the blowback towards me seemed excessive. > > But go ahead and keep up the crazy, no big deal to me. If you feel I overreacted to your post, I sincerely apologize. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/132 "2011-11-13T08:18:38Z")
Well then, back to BFFs. Edit: I can see why “fucked up” seems more hostile than I intended. I just meant it was an unintentional breach of etiquette through some degree of ambiguity. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/133 "2011-11-13T08:21:30Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > Well then, back to BFFs. > > Edit: I can see why “fucked up” seems more hostile than I intended. I just meant it was an unintentional breach of etiquette through some degree of ambiguity. But you said it in The BBQ Pit, dude-that makes it open season, right? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/134 "2011-11-13T17:01:44Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > As observant of what’s going on as ever, I see. Cut her a break. She’s a bit lightheaded from the fumes. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/135 "2011-11-13T19:00:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > As observant of what’s going on as ever, I see. You’re enjoying not being a mod anymore just little too much, aren’t you… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/136 "2011-11-13T20:36:44Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > It’s simple. He attributed to me words I did not say, argued against them, and by doing so mis-characterized me. That is a HUGE breech of board etiquette. Would you want me to start arguing against posts others made and attribute them to you? Of course not. This appears to be a perfect little microcosm of the Pit. Someone makes a mistake or isn’t perfectly clear, and at least one person loses their shit over it. Endlessly fascinating. (FTR, that sort of thing happens to me all the time.) (What **Monkey** said, to be clear…) ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/137 "2011-11-13T23:44:05Z")
My account has been wonky for the last couple of days and I’ve not been able to post till now. Please note, I am _not_ Floaty. I am FloatyGimpy. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/138 "2011-11-14T00:12:50Z")
I had to bribe my friend with a concert to come visit me (as opposed to just coming for the hell of it). She just left, and I called up my mom to chat. My brother, his wife and their daughter were over for supper, so Mom was distracted cooing over the baby and told me she made a lovely supper of ribs and baked potatoes, and then said she had to go because the pie was ready for dessert. So now I’m sitting down eating my grocery store sammich all alone. And then I saw Aladdin was on the TV, so I was excited, but the signal keeps coming in and out. Forever alone…just living here for work, I’ve got nothing else here. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/139 "2011-11-14T00:27:19Z")
That post was supposed to go into the November bitching thread! Now I’m embarrassed too. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638/140 "2011-11-14T01:04:28Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > That post was supposed to go into the November bitching thread! Now I’m embarrassed too. ☹ Report it and the mods can move it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floater-wth-is-wrong-with-you/602638.md?page=8)