“Sunshine is the best disinfectant.”
And, yeah, they would have to call it that.
@wolfpup: nice.
Jones and Filipkowski think they seized all her equipment so they can analyze it and find out who in the agency is still feeding information to her so they can come after them too.
More detail, with cite, in my post in the other thread.
You have better laws than we have.
Yes, that seems like the likely motive. If I’m not mistaken, she claims she never sent that mass email. If she is telling the truth, it may have been sent with the intention of creating a plausible cause for seizing her equipment.
(in what sounds like a raid to me. I mean, I don’t know the technical definition of a “police raid”, but if the police, bearing a warrant, entered my house, waved drawn guns around, and took away some of my stuff, I would certainly feel comfortable describing it as having been raided by the police.)
We have a public line list which contains the age, gender (m/f), date of onset, county, etc. of every COVID-19 case known to the state. Anyone can download the CSV if you want to look at the raw data. It is updated daily.
https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=4cc62b3a510949c7a8167f6baa3e069d
~Max
Seems to me, if such is the case, that any effort on her part to change the data to fit her “biases” would have been futile from the git-go. Which lends credence to the notion that they were eager to stifle an opinion. Which buggers the question of whether “credence” matters any more.
Did anyone ever reveal just perzackly what data points she had altered? I would expect such info may come out at her trial. For her crimes.
The app she made is, as I understand it, a front-end for visualizing data. So most people don’t look at the spreadsheet, they look at her “dashboard” app which is still maintained by the DoH here:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429
After she was let go she maintained her own “dashboard” app with whatever changes she thought to make, which is still available here:
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/d2726d6c01c4486181fec2d4373b01fa
~Max
Just a cursory look, the official DOH dashboard shows total positive residents while Ms. Jones’s COVID Action dashboard shows total positive cases. The official dashboard has blue colors on the map, Ms. Jones’s uses red (scroll down to the bottom for the map). So I assume it was more of a dispute over what stats and layout to present than actual fudging of numbers.
~Max
I also notice that when Ms. Jones reports total cases for a county, it is sometimes higher than when the DoH reports total cases for a county. But Ms. Jones has a number for each county labelled “Total Cases since March 1”, and this exactly matches the DoH total for each county.
More reason for me to believe the issue was how to present data.
~Max
A raid is when police use the element of surprise in order to apprehend someone who is likely to flee, seize evidence before it can be destroyed or hidden, or gain the upper hand in an armed conflict. It is usually characterized by forcing entry into a house and is most often done just before dawn (called a “pre-dawn raid”) as that is the time when people are most likely to be asleep or otherwise vulnerable. What occurred here is the police serving a warrant, they didn’t even enter the home until given permission which reportedly took 20 minutes.
Raids are controversial because they are high risk affairs, and more likely to lead to collateral damage (people or property). They are typically reserved for extreme situations. This story was headlined as a raid inaccurately by newsmakers to grab attention.
There are multiple reasons to criticize what the police did here. The number of police and gear they carried seemed very excessive, and drawing their guns when not under threat (whether pointing at a person or not) doesn’t look good. But there’s no need to mislabel it to make it seem like something it wasn’t.
You defined “police raid”. A police “raid”, literally police making “an entrance into another’s territory for the purpose of seizing goods or valuables”, is totally in line with puzzlegal’s description.
~Max
Definition of raid
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : a hostile or predatory incursion
b : a surprise attack by a small force
2a : a brief foray outside one’s usual sphere
b : a sudden invasion by officers of the law
c : a daring operation against a competitor
d : the recruiting of personnel (such as faculty, executives, or athletes) from competing organizations
3 : the act of mulcting public money
4 : an attempt by professional operators to depress stock prices by concerted selling
If you want to get pedantic and focus on the word “raid” it still doesn’t work. The word implies that something is done by surprise, and that element of a raid is what makes it controversial. It’s what differentiates a raid from a regular seizure by warrant.
I quoted from my American Heritage dictionary listing 3. With regards to Miriam-Webster, it would be closest to 1a.
~Max
Calling a warrant a “hostile or predatory incursion” is even worse, it sounds like they killed and ate her family. 
Only one of the many definitions there mention surprise, which implies that it is not necessary.
It absolutely fits 1a and 2b of the definitions that you listed.
In any case, pretty much every headline I see about this, including on NPR and BBC, refer to it as a raid. Even Fox and Newsmax do so, in case you are thinking that it is a leftist reaction.
It’s pretty much you against the entire world on your insistence on using only your narrow definition.
Yeah, again, fuck Snopes because they are full of shit right?
You mean Snopes who rates the claim as “Mostly True”?
They don’t have your back on this either.
It does say that the term “connotes” as you say, but does not make the claim, as you do, that it can only be used in that way.
And that you would use this as some sort of reason to question her character doesn’t seem to follow.
For fuck’s sake, let me repeat it. What Snopes said wasn’t true specifically was the idea that it was a raid. Here, let me help you if you don’t want to scroll up.
What’s False
However, police did not forcibly or suddenly enter Jones’ home. She opened the door to the agents after refusing to grant them entry for 20 minutes, according to state officials.
They also are careful to put “raid” in scare quotes in both the title of their article and in the body.
And they went on to say…
Those reports were largely accurate, but the description of the incident as a “raid” tended to exaggerate the apparent level of force and surprise involved in the actions of state law enforcement agents.
So, do you still think that I am using only my narrow definition? Or are you done?
I had no idea that anyone restricted the use of the word “raid” to acts of surprise. It was a hostile entry. If the police execute a warrant on your house and walk away with your stuff after waving guns around in your house, I’m sure you will feel it was a hostile incursion, too.
I thought I remembered something about that. This is very misleading on the state’s part. The Florida Dept of Health doesn’t count Covid cases of nonresidents, even though they are cases occurring in the state of Florida. Moreover, Florida has a high number of nonresidents present in the state due to tourism and people who live in the state seasonally, but maintain residency elsewhere. I think this counts as extremely deceptive.
I agree, that’s not painting the whole picture.