# Florida Congressman proposes amendment to stop Mueller investigation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 29, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046 "2017-08-29T18:27:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/1 "2017-08-29T18:27:13Z")

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> AMENDMENT TO DIVISION C OF THE RULES  
> COMMITTEE PRINT 115-31  
> OFFERED BY MR. DESANTIS OF FLORIDA  
> At the end of division C (before the short title), insert  
> the following:  
> 1 SEC. ll. None of the funds made available by this  
> 2 Act may be used to fund activities pursuant to Depart-  
> 3 ment of Justice order 3915-2017, dated May 17, 2017  
> 4 and relating to the appointment of a special counsel, later  
> 5 than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act,  
> 6 or for the investigation under that order of matters occur-  
> 7 ring before June 2015.

DOJ order 3915-2017 is APPOINTMENT OF SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE WITH THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND RELATED MATTERS ([link](https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/967231/download)).

According to The Hill, the bill was

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> submitted as part of the upcoming spending package the lower chamber is expected to weigh after the congressional recess.
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> [link](http://thehill.com/homenews/house/348343-gop-lawmaker-proposes-amendment-that-would-stop-funding-for-special-counsel?amp)

You may remember Desantis as the guy who said “If there’s a connection between the leaking and the unmasking, I think you have a major, major abuse of power on your hands” during the Susan Rice investigation.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/2 "2017-08-29T18:55:00Z")

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No way is this going to fly, but it doesn’t “stop Mueller’s investigation”. It purports to stop it 6 months after the bill is enacted, which would put us roughly in March 2018.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/3 "2017-08-29T20:21:49Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> No way is this going to fly, but it doesn’t “stop Mueller’s investigation”. It purports to stop it 6 months after the bill is enacted, which would put us roughly in March 2018.

Right. It doesn’t stop it. It just stops it.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/4 "2017-08-29T20:38:12Z")

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Dunno and maybe. Mueller has rep for thorough, and thorough may require more time. Could be, of course, that the principal miscreants weren’t smart enough to cover their tracks better, and that extra time may not be needed. Bad news, they are corrupt and stupid. Good news, they are corrupt but stupid.

Remember when the Pubbies were dancing on the grave of the Soviet Union, gleefully celebrating how the whole country was being, ah, “privatized”? In lawless capitalism, thugs end up grabbing everything in sight. (At which point, they become quite conservative in their political outlook. They have no problem with promoting justice and equality, so long as it doesn’t mean changing anything…)

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/5 "2017-08-29T20:58:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Remember when the Pubbies were dancing on the grave of the Soviet Union, gleefully celebrating how the whole country was being, ah, “privatized”? In lawless capitalism, thugs end up grabbing everything in sight. (At which point, they become quite conservative in their political outlook. They have no problem with promoting justice and equality, so long as it doesn’t mean changing anything…)

It was the ‘end of history’. Nothing has happened since then.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/6 "2017-08-29T22:32:35Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Right. It doesn’t stop it. It just stops it.

Well, it depends on what the meaning of “stop” is. 😉

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> Dunno and maybe. Mueller has rep for thorough, and thorough may require more time. Could be, of course, that the principal miscreants weren’t smart enough to cover their tracks better, and that extra time may not be needed. Bad news, they are corrupt and stupid. Good news, they are corrupt but stupid.

That may actually be enough time for him to wrap up his investigation. I hope so. But, IIRC, Star’s investigation of Clinton went on for something like 5 years. And there is nothing that says the funding can’t be extended if need be once the 6 months is up.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2017, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/7 "2017-08-29T22:50:20Z")

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They’d have to get 60 votes in the senate to pass it I’d assume. Good luck

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/8 "2017-08-30T01:10:56Z")

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Even if it only had to pass with 51, well, Trump’s got some serious enemies in the Senate right now. Starting at the top.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/9 "2017-08-30T01:36:31Z")

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What, am I the only one who read the thread title and thought the Congressman had proposed a bizarrely specific Amendment to the _Constitution?_

**AMENDMENT XXVIII**

**Section 1.** Knock it the hell off, Mueller, or I’ll give you something to cry about.

**Section 2.** Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/10 "2017-08-30T01:39:52Z")

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You’re the only one. 😃

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/11 "2017-08-30T20:03:26Z")

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If a Go Fund Me is required to keep the investigation rolling, I’ll be glad to chip in.

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**Author:** ![ganthet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de0a6/32.png) [@ganthet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ganthet)\
**Post date:** [August 30, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-congressman-proposes-amendment-to-stop-mueller-investigation/795046/12 "2017-08-30T20:29:45Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Well, it depends on what the meaning of “stop” is. 😉
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> That may actually be enough time for him to wrap up his investigation. I hope so. But, IIRC, Star’s investigation of Clinton went on for something like 5 years. And there is nothing that says the funding can’t be extended if need be once the 6 months is up.

One of the many problems with the bill and its language is that it is so broad, covering anything even relating to the investigation and appointment of Mueller, is that this would also cover prohibiting funding for the prosecution of anyone whose criminal acts were uncovered in the investigation. Since even a federal indictment issued today would not likely be able to go all the way to trial and sentencing phases by March 2018, the bill would very effectively stop the investigation from resulting in anything substantive.
