# "Florida gun-maker designs 'ISIS-proof' assault rifle"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 16, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185 "2016-03-16T18:19:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/1 "2016-03-16T18:19:36Z")

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[https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/](https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/)

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> A Florida gun maker has launched an ‘ISIS-proof’ assault rifle, complete with a Bible verse and a symbol of the crusades. The firearm boasts three settings – ‘peace,’ ‘war’ and ‘God wills it’ – and has been condemned by Muslim groups.  
> The ‘Crusader Rifle’ was “designed to never be used by Muslim terrorists,” and is inscribed with Psalms 144:1: “Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.”

OK, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that ISIS terrorists got a box of these guns, and would indeed care that a Bible verse is on the gun.

So why wouldn’t they just paint over it?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/2 "2016-03-16T18:23:21Z")

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What… it isn’t pork fat lubed?

America sucks these days. Where is the really out of the box thinking?

Some muslim groups have objected? Some people really don’t know when to be quite do they?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/3 "2016-03-16T18:28:05Z")

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But is ISIL proof? Hamas proof? Random asshole muslim “young couple” in California proof?

I got lots of contingencies here dude.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/4 "2016-03-16T19:06:57Z")

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ISIS-proof, idiot-ready!

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/5 "2016-03-16T19:13:09Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> [https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/](https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/)
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> OK, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that ISIS terrorists got a box of these guns, and would indeed care that a Bible verse is on the gun.
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> So why wouldn’t they just paint over it?

According to theory espoused by the designer, lightning would strike them down. In the reality that the rest of us live in, the terrorists would say “Wow, nice gun!” and do exactly what you suggested. Assuming that they could actually read English.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/6 "2016-03-16T19:22:33Z")

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Because members of ISIS are vampires, apparently. So many cans of get-over-yourself to dole out…

(also, for the sake of theological accuracy : Islam recognizes the Bible, Jesus bits included, as accurate and sacred. Islam also recognizes Jesus as a prophet of Allah, to say nothing of the earlier parts. So fuck you _twice_ you ignant sonzabitches. There is not one thing that would make a Muslim touching these guns vanish in a puff of Sharia.)

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/7 "2016-03-16T19:25:41Z")

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Ok, now I want a shotgun with “Blessed are the cheesemakers” inscribed on it.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/8 "2016-03-16T19:25:56Z")

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The only thing separating this from some woman’s craft Pinterest hobby is that they’re firearms.

If gun nuts wanna pay a markup for pretty artwork, that’s no business of mine.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/9 "2016-03-16T19:28:06Z")

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It would have been better to inscribe the guns with the follows.

“Dear God, if I die holding this rifle, please make all my virgins morbidly obese and incontinent.”

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/10 "2016-03-16T19:29:58Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Ok, now I want a shotgun with “Blessed are the cheesemakers” inscribed on it.

I want one with a picture of Sandy Duncan saying “you’ll shoot your eye out.”

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/11 "2016-03-16T20:51:47Z")

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"The firearm boasts three settings – ‘peace,’ ‘war’ and ‘God wills it’ "  
So one setting does fuck-all? I guarantee it’s not for automatic, so is this like painting a racing stripe on a Ford Fiesta?

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Because members of ISIS are vampires, apparently. So many cans of get-over-yourself to dole out…
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> (also, for the sake of theological accuracy : Islam recognizes the Bible, Jesus bits included, as accurate and sacred. Islam also recognizes Jesus as a prophet of Allah, to say nothing of the earlier parts. So fuck you _twice_ you ignant sonzabitches. There is not one thing that would make a Muslim touching these guns vanish in a puff of Sharia.)

To be fair, I don’t think you should expect a nuanced reading of the Koran from ISIS. I mean we have non-explody people from various religions who are very good at reading every other line when they suit their purposes.

> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> It would have been better to inscribe the guns with the follows.
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> “Dear God, if I die holding this rifle, please make all my virgins morbidly obese and incontinent.”

Just as life is an argument over whose god is the true one, so shall the afterlife be full of arguments over whether Kirk is better than Picard.

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**Author:** ![little\_bit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@little\_bit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/little_bit)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/12 "2016-03-16T21:02:51Z")

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Um… Didn’t they just steal this idea from [Trijicon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon_biblical_verses_controversy)?

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/13 "2016-03-16T21:22:46Z")

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> [@little\_bit](#):
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> Um… Didn’t they just steal this idea from [Trijicon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trijicon_biblical_verses_controversy)?

Not really. One is standard “coded” witnessing in the [same vein as In-N-Out Burger](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In-N-Out_Burger#Bible_verses), pretty unobtrusive. The other is intentionally being provocative/bellicose. Trijicon was more of a controversy because the military bought their products.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/14 "2016-03-16T21:46:12Z")

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They’re really over-thinking this. If they want to inscribe it with a Bible verse that will keep ISIS from using it, they should just use “Thou shalt not kill.”

That oughta do it.

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**Author:** ![Memnon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Memnon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Memnon)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2016, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/15 "2016-03-16T21:54:42Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Some muslim groups have objected? Some people really don’t know when to be quiet do they?

Not half! The headlines just write themselves.

_You’re watching FOX News, tonight’s main story: Florida Gunsmith Sells Terrorist-Proof Rifle. Muslim Groups Object._

They _really_ didn’t think this one through, did they?

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/16 "2016-03-17T01:58:33Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> [https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/](https://www.rt.com/usa/315060-anti-isis-crusader-rifle/)
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> OK, for the sake of argument, let’s assume that ISIS terrorists got a box of these guns, and would indeed care that a Bible verse is on the gun.
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> So why wouldn’t they just paint over it?

They can’t, their fingers will catch on fire when they touch it.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/17 "2016-03-17T02:20:24Z")

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> [@](#):
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> A Florida gun maker has launched an ‘ISIS-proof’ assault rifle, complete with a Bible verse and a symbol of the crusades. The firearm boasts three settings – ‘peace,’ ‘war’ and ‘God wills it’ – and has been condemned by Muslim groups.  
> The ‘Crusader Rifle’ was “designed to never be used by Muslim terrorists,” and is inscribed with Psalms 144:1: “Blessed be the Lord my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.”

If these guys were really hip they would have inscribed it with the text from “Ezekiel 25:17”.

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**Author:** ![The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a87d85/32.png) [@The\_King\_of\_Soup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_King_of_Soup)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/18 "2016-03-17T04:01:39Z")

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So let’s inscribe all guns intended for private sale too. “Penis substitute,” should fit; " I say I bought this to protect my family but don’t replace batteries in my smoke detectors," and “good guy with gun/bereaved father of inquisitive toddler” probably too long.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/19 "2016-03-17T17:36:17Z")

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I can only assume they were inspired by Trump’s proposal to weed out Muslims at airports.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-gun-maker-designs-isis-proof-assault-rifle/749185/20 "2016-03-17T18:56:02Z")

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Did they inscribe it in English, or did they inscribe it in a language ISIS members are likely to be able to read?

You can remove serial numbers from a gun. How hard would it be to remove an inscription?

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