# Florida is Officially Fucked **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2020, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781 "2020-09-29T02:09:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/142 "2021-09-15T03:13:02Z")
Yeah, a lot of people are under the misapprehension that the Police are duty bound to take a bullet for them. Nope. "The US Supreme Court has made it clear that law enforcement agencies are not required to provide protection to the citizens who are forced to pay the police for their “services.” [https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again](https://mises.org/power-market/police-have-no-duty-protect-you-federal-court-affirms-yet-again) And, earlier in 2005, "WASHINGTON, June 27 - The Supreme Court ruled on Monday that the police did not have a constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even a woman who had obtained a court-issued protective order against a violent husband making an arrest mandatory for a violation. The decision, with an opinion by Justice Antonin Scalia and dissents from Justices John Paul Stevens and Ruth Bader Ginsburg, overturned a ruling by a federal appeals court in Colorado. The appeals court had permitted a lawsuit to proceed against a Colorado town, Castle Rock, for the failure of the police to respond to a woman’s pleas for help after her estranged husband violated a protective order by kidnapping their three young daughters, whom he eventually killed." > **[Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone...](https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html)** > > Supreme Court rules that police do not have constitutional duty to protect person from harm, even woman who obtained court-issued protective order against violent husband which made arrest mandatory for violation; decision overturns ruling by federal... ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/143 "2021-09-15T06:27:18Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > vaseline biker gear What’s a “vaseline biker”? Only references I can find are to a certain rude joke, but this seems like a different usage. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/144 "2021-09-15T12:35:21Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > If we can’t trust them to do something as simple as wear a mask or get a vaccine to protect others, how are we supposed to trust them to step in front of a bullet? No, you see, in Florida everyone’s expected to put the bullet into the [certain types of] folks who step in front of you, first. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2021, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/145 "2021-09-15T21:33:10Z")
Her hair was vaselined back. She wore leather biker gear. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2021, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/146 "2021-10-29T19:21:32Z")
Feds are not happy with DeSantis & Co. threatening their public schools’ federal funds. > **[Education Department files cease and desist complaint against Florida over...](https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/28/politics/education-department-cease-and-desist-florida-schools-masks/index.html)** > > The US Department of Education filed a complaint Thursday against Florida's Education Department for its decision to reduce funding for certain school districts amid an ongoing battle over school mask mandate policies. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/147 "2021-10-30T04:46:31Z")
> [@mistymage](#): > > Castle Rock In fairness, a lot of fucked-up shit happens in [Castle Rock](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_(Stephen_King)?wprov=sfti1). ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/148 "2021-10-30T05:09:13Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > Black bears have been in my wife’s car twice. And they have been in my car twice. No damage but footprints. I really wish you wouldn’t pick up hitchhikers. I know you’re just trying to be nice but it just isn’t safe. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/149 "2021-10-30T19:59:31Z")
Meanwhile DeSantis, has instituted a gag order against University of Florida Faculty testifying against his voter suppression efforts. > **[University of Florida bars faculty members from testifying in voting rights...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/10/30/florida-voting-rights-desantis-lawsuit/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjEyNzYwNDUiLCJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNjM1NjIzNzY2LCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNjM2ODMzMzY2LCJpYXQiOjE2MzU2MjM3NjYsImp0aSI6ImNhMjRlYzE5LTI0ZDEtNDM4OS04NzA2LTEzMmRkNTExODBlOSIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9uYXRpb24vMjAyMS8xMC8zMC9mbG9yaWRhLXZvdGluZy1yaWdodHMtZGVzYW50aXMtbGF3c3VpdC8ifQ.NjKFl0KmOpngvfm2I1hYJ5qAQZyGubLsvrYSukvf7EI&itid=gfta)** > > The public university said the political scientists could pose “a conflict of interest to the executive branch” and harm the school’s interests if they testified against the law signed by Gov. Ron DeSantis. Cancel culture anyone? ---
**Author:** ![CaptMurdock](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/captmurdock/32/11736_2.png) [@CaptMurdock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaptMurdock)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/150 "2021-10-31T02:08:34Z")
More than that, isn’t that a violation of the separation of powers? ---
**Author:** ![Toxgoddess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Toxgoddess](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxgoddess)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/151 "2021-10-31T02:17:13Z")
Yeah, I don’t see how he has the authority to order that. If the school officials are subpoenaed that’s a court order to appear. Republicans of late appear to think they can ignore such summons if they wish but courts in general think otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/152 "2021-10-31T06:24:08Z")
> [@Toxgoddess](#): > > Yeah, I don’t see how he has the authority to order that. If the school officials are subpoenaed that’s a court order to appear. The article doesn’t actually say they were subpoenaed. The professors are fighting the gag order, so that means they _want_ to testify. So they may be doing so without a subpoena. Perhaps, in light of the gag order, the court or the plaintiffs could officially subpoena them as their next step. Perhaps that would then override the gag order? ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/153 "2021-10-31T11:26:57Z")
I’m looking forward to the hand-wringing letters from people like Steven Pinker. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2021, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/154 "2021-10-31T15:36:16Z")
Nitpicking my own post, the order didn’t actually come from DeSantis, it was from the University of Florida administration. But given that DeSantis controls UF’s funding and other than to help him there was no reason for the order, its pretty clear that there was pressure from DeSantis behind the scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/155 "2021-11-01T16:54:52Z")
I wouldn’t be at all surprised, or it may just be university administrators proactively trying to keep him happy. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/156 "2021-11-01T17:50:55Z")
I read somewhere (I’ll try to find the cite) that the big push to shut the profs up is coming from a BMOC on the Board of Regents who is a major financial contributor to DeathSantis and his evil. ---
**Author:** ![MikeF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MikeF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeF)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2021, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/157 "2021-11-01T18:33:35Z")
I’m not seeing much in the way of deterrence when it comes to ignoring subpoenas. That, in my opinion, is a real problem. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/158 "2022-03-04T11:41:21Z")
Hey, it’s been awhile since we’ve talked about DeSantis in this thread. How about this video in which he ridiculed teenagers for wearing masks at an event, saying “we need to stop with this COVID theater; this is ridiculous”? A couple of them took off their masks, but a few of them didn’t. > **[Morning Joe Rips DeSantis for BUllying Kids Wearing Masks](https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/morning-joe-rips-desantis-for-bullying-kids-in-masks-was-that-guy-raised-in-a-barn/ar-AAUyRSo?ocid=msedgntp)** > > The "Morning Joe" co-host questioned why “rudeness” has become a “defining characteristic that actually the base looks for.” ---
**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/159 "2022-03-04T13:15:20Z")
We knew this was coming, but I’m still fucking sick about it: > **[Florida legislature passes bill banning abortions after 15 weeks | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/04/politics/florida-senate-abortion-bill-15-week-ban/index.html)** > > Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is poised to sign into a law a bill that would ban most abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, allowing only for exceptions involving "serious risk" to the pregnant person and fatal fetal abnormality but with no exceptions... ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/160 "2022-03-04T14:47:29Z")
Better not speak out against oppression in Florida, either. > **[Student organizer of statewide protest against Florida ‘Don’t Say Gay’ bill...](https://www.rawstory.com/student-organizer-of-statewide-protest-against-florida-dont-say-gay-bill-suspended-for-handing-out-pride-flags-report/)** > > Jack Petocz, the student who organized a statewide school walkout and protest against Florida Republicans' "Don't Say Gay" bill has been suspended indefinitely, reportedly for handing out pride flags, which he says school administrators... ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2022, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-is-officially-fucked/921781/161 "2022-03-04T14:54:55Z")
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