# Florida Man charged with stealing Speaker's podium

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 10, 2021, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157 "2021-01-10T02:28:11Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/41 "2021-01-10T20:22:39Z")

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That is exactly what this article claims:

> **[Trump rioters could face long jail terms because of his executive order to...](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/capitol-rioters-prison-trump-executive-order-b1784256.html)**
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> President Donald Trump in July 2020 had signed an executive order authorising up to 10 years of imprisonment for 'injury of federal property’

I agree about the poetic justice.

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/42 "2021-01-10T20:25:49Z")

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> [@DemonTree](#):
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> … what is up with that hat?

Asks the person whose avatar seems to be wearing a _very_ suspicious hat. 😉

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/43 "2021-01-10T20:31:08Z")

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> [@anny\_m](#):
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> Didn’t Trump sign an Executive Order that allowed ten years in prison for damaging a federal monument? Would not the Capitol building be considered a federal monument?

The wording of Trump’s Executive Order explicitly includes damage to _all_ Federal property.

[https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-protecting-american-monuments-memorials-statues-combating-recent-criminal-violence/](https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-protecting-american-monuments-memorials-statues-combating-recent-criminal-violence/)

> It is the policy of the United States to prosecute to the fullest extent permitted under Federal law, and as appropriate, any person or any entity that destroys, damages, vandalizes, or desecrates a monument, memorial, or statue within the United States **or otherwise vandalizes government property**. The desire of the Congress to protect Federal property is clearly reflected in section 1361 of title 18, United States Code, which authorizes a penalty of **up to 10 years’ imprisonment** for the willful injury of Federal property.

People who broke windows and defecated on the floor are exposed to a potential maximum ten year sentence. If nothing else, that should give the Feds some firepower to encourage people to talk in order to isolate the most serious offenders.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/44 "2021-01-10T20:39:24Z")

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So some of the Capitol Police officers pulled the barriers aside for the rioters, or helped a woman get down the stairs or aided them in some other way. I really want to ask these officers what were they thinking?

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/45 "2021-01-10T20:39:51Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Asks the person whose avatar seems to be wearing a _very_ suspicious hat.

I’ll have you know that’s part of my head!

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/46 "2021-01-10T20:40:44Z")

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Maybe those horns are part of Jake Angeli’s head too. After all, have you ever seen him without them? 😉

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/47 "2021-01-10T20:43:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I really want to ask these officers what were they thinking?

It’s a decent bet they thought something along the lines of

> Thank goodness the MAGA cavalry has arrived to stop the steal. If only I was off duty today I’d be among them.

But with lots more profanity aimed at those awful people inside Congress who actually believe (at least a little) in democracy.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/48 "2021-01-10T21:07:35Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> People who broke windows and defecated on the floor are exposed to a potential maximum ten year sentence. If nothing else, that should give the Feds some firepower to encourage people to talk in order to isolate the most serious offenders.

Still can’t get over how dumb these people are… I especially liked the one who wore his work ID to a riot.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/49 "2021-01-10T21:10:38Z")

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That was dumb, but frankly I doubt there was even a handful of people there that can’t eventually be identified, even the ones fully masked like zip tie guy.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/50 "2021-01-10T21:20:51Z")

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Who has already been tagged as a bartender who took his mom to the insurrection.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/51 "2021-01-10T21:22:42Z")

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The family that riots together stays together. In federal prison.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/52 "2021-01-10T21:29:48Z")

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Actually, he answered it (before he got arrested).  
The hat, fur, and face paint are just props to get attention.

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**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/53 "2021-01-10T22:20:21Z")

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Apparently a well known character amongst the right-wing nutjob faction here in AZ.

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**Author:** ![DemonTree](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/demontree/32/8646_2.png) [@DemonTree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DemonTree)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/54 "2021-01-10T22:23:01Z")

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> [@beowulff](#):
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> Actually, he answered it (before he got arrested).  
> The hat, fur, and face paint are just props to get attention.

That’s disappointing. I thought maybe it was a reference to something.

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**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/55 "2021-01-10T22:49:42Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> All this wordplay is their pun-ishment.

Moderating (not):

Stop it, stop it. You wanna be banned? 🙃

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/56 "2021-01-10T22:51:45Z")

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“So uh, what are you in for?”

“Stealing a lecturn.”

“Whu? I thought you just got expelled from school for that shit - it’s illegal now?”

“Uh, well, I kinda stole the wrong lectern.”

Dumbass.

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**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/57 "2021-01-10T22:53:27Z")

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> [@Telemark](#):
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> The guy who stole Pelosi’s podium was just taking a political stand.

😂

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**Author:** ![DMC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dmc/32/18049_2.png) [@DMC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMC)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/58 "2021-01-10T23:19:18Z")

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First amendment! Cancel culture! These people keep losing their jobs for being patriots!

> <https://twitter.com/boston_dsa/status/931932996374056960?lang=en>

An oldie, but a goodie (and as applicable as ever).

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/59 "2021-01-10T23:20:42Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> That was dumb, but frankly I doubt there was even a handful of people there that can’t eventually be identified, even the ones fully masked like zip tie guy.

I read somewhere that fully masked zip tie guy has been identified, because he went to the terrorist traitor event with his mother, and was photographed with her.

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**Author:** ![ctnguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@ctnguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ctnguy)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2021, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-man-charged-with-stealing-speakers-podium/930157/60 "2021-01-10T23:45:47Z")

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There was some really remarkable detective work done on Twitter to identify that guy - the following tweet is part of a huge thread:

[https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347760352705052672](https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1347760352705052672)

He has been arrested by the FBI though it’s not known if they used the information from Twitter or if they identified him independently.

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