# Florida Movie Theater Shooting Leaves One Dead In Altercation Over Texting **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 13, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717 "2014-01-13T22:44:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/241 "2017-03-13T00:02:45Z")
Always know your limit! ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/242 "2017-03-13T00:34:27Z")
> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#): > > I think it was the two beers. > > šŸ™‚ I think so, too. **Baker** , did you mean to post in the MMP and hit this thread by mistake? ---
**Author:** ![Weisshund](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba8739/32.png) [@Weisshund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weisshund)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/243 "2017-03-13T01:39:25Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The beer yesterday was good, but I had only two, not three. Guinness is the way to go! > > This morning I got up early to bake cookies and little meatballs in sauce. Iā€™d signed up to do the refreshments for after the second service at church. You should see the people at my congregation eat!. As long as you keep putting stuff out they keep eating. The meatballs were a hit, next time I could even make them a leetle smaller, to go further. Just dont throw a meatball or popcorn at someone? confused šŸ˜• ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2017, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/244 "2017-03-13T05:03:37Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The beer yesterday was good, but I had only two, not three. Guinness is the way to go! > > This morning I got up early to bake cookies and little meatballs in sauce. Iā€™d signed up to do the refreshments for after the second service at church. You should see the people at my congregation eat!. As long as you keep putting stuff out they keep eating. The meatballs were a hit, next time I could even make them a leetle smaller, to go further. Ok, I wondered where this post went. Itā€™s obviously in the wrong thread. Iā€™m going to copy it and put it in the right place, so please pretend it wasnā€™t here. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/245 "2017-11-21T05:12:58Z")
Iā€™m glad that **Baker** had a nice Guinness on St. Patā€™s day. šŸ˜ƒ I was curious about the status of this case so I did a bit of googling and found that the trial court has set up a web-page specifically for the filings for this case: [http://www.curtisreevestrial.com/](http://www.curtisreevestrial.com/) . The two most recent filings were an order for a pre-trial management conference on November 16, at which time the trial date would be set, but thereā€™s also an application last month by Reeves to the Florida Court of Appeal for an order prohibiting the trial from going ahead. So, itā€™s chugging through the court system still. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/246 "2017-11-21T15:12:07Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The beer yesterday was good, but I had only two, not three. Guinness is the way to go! > > This morning I got up early to bake cookies and little meatballs in sauce. Iā€™d signed up to do the refreshments for after the second service at church. You should see the people at my congregation eat!. As long as you keep putting stuff out they keep eating. The meatballs were a hit, next time I could even make them a leetle smaller, to go further. Whooooaaaaaa. Full stop here. I believe that it is common knowledge that Floridians are a very special kind of Mrrikkan. Thereā€™s reliable data that shows that if you are born female and blonde in Florida you run a 72% chance of being kidnapped by the age of 7 and buried alive in a shallow grave. That said, our dear **Baker** took it upon herself to celebrate her move to a new state and new church home. They were planning a communal double feature of "The Ten Commandments " and " Monty Python and The Life of Brian ". She cooked her little heart out, making over 600 of her famous Goldilocks Meatballs. ( Not too big. Not too small. Juuuuuust right ! ) She shows up with aforementioned meatballs and a veritable cauldron of home-made sauce. Some inconsiderate nincompoop splashes a little bit of sauce on his bib overalls as heā€™s filling up his fourth serving and loses his mind, takes out his concealed firearm and shoots up the place and nobody hears the gunshots because he fires during the scene where the slaves are being whipped for collapsing into the mud and straw ??? Whatā€™s the world coming to? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Khendrask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3e96dc/32.png) [@Khendrask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khendrask)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/247 "2017-11-21T16:12:38Z")
Three years, and still not a trial. Isnā€™t there a guarantee somewhere of a speedy trial? Oh wait, that was before the legal system became so cocked up. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/248 "2017-11-21T16:24:51Z")
> [@Khendrask](#): > > Three years, and still not a trial. > Isnā€™t there a guarantee somewhere of a speedy trial? > Oh wait, that was before the legal system became so cocked up. I think they forgot about it: > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Trial date now set for 2 March 2015 > Cite > Quote: > Judge Pat Siracusa set a March 2 trial date on Wednesday and said he wants to move the case along as quickly as possible for the sake of the families involved. Another hearing to confirm the date is set for Oct. 15. 2015!! March! Two and a half years after the original schedule, and still nothing. ā€œAs quickly as possibleā€ my ass! In this were a Law & Order episodes, and it was caught by Logan and Briscoe, theyā€™d have to bring Lennie out of retirement for the trial. If he wasnā€™t dead by then. Sheesh. I think the wheels of justice have jammed. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/249 "2017-11-21T16:50:15Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Thatā€™s what Iā€™m reading. [This article](http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/criminal/why-is-the-wesley-chapel-movie-theater-shooting-case-taking-so-long-to-go/2284256) tries to answer the question of why the case is taking so long to get to trial. The TL;DR I get from this article is that itā€™s taking so long because the defense attorney is stonewalling it to death, perhaps with the strategy that he can keep his client out of jail until he dies a natural death. Or as nearly so as possible. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/250 "2017-11-21T17:13:08Z")
The stand your ground hearing last Feb was practically a trial. Over 8 days of witness testimony. Opening and closing arguments. The bizarre aspect was the defendant had the burden of proof. He had to prove self defense was necessary to avoid great bodily harm. The defense attorney even remarked that he had to dredge up his old skills as a prosecutor. Now they get to do it all over again in the ā€œtrialā€. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/251 "2017-11-21T21:28:07Z")
> [@Khendrask](#): > > Three years, and still not a trial. > Isnā€™t there a guarantee somewhere of a speedy trial? > Oh wait, that was before the legal system became so cocked up. A person has the right to a speedy trial but they can waive that right. Since the defendant is out on bail, every day delayed is a day less heā€™ll spend in prison, given his advanced age and the expected sentence if heā€™s found guilty. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/252 "2019-06-25T16:21:02Z")
So, did anything ever happen on this case? Like, you know, maybe a trial? Last Iā€™ve been able to find is that it was adjourned in August 2018, waiting for a ruling whether changes to the ā€œstand your groundā€ law applied to this case. [Trial of Curtis Reeves postponed due to confusion about ā€˜stand your groundā€™ law](https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/local/pascocounty/trial-of-curtis-reeves-postponed-due-to-confusion-about-stand-your-ground-law/67-587350524) ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/253 "2019-06-25T16:26:17Z")
Thatā€™s the latest news I see googling for ā€œCurtis Reeves Florida shootingā€. I wonder whatā€™s going on? ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/254 "2019-06-25T16:40:47Z")
I wondered if perhaps he had died, so I googled ā€œCurtis Reeves obituaryā€ but didnā€™t get anything. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/255 "2019-06-25T19:11:07Z")
Per this article from less than a month ago: > **[Judge denies 'stand your ground' defense in deadly road rage case](https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/crime/judge-denies-stand-your-ground-defense-in-deadly-road-rage-case/67-9beb3695-601b-4875-8939-f9239d94b600)** > > A shouting match turned physical -- then fatal. ā€¦the case is sitting at the Florida State Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/256 "2019-06-25T20:42:35Z")
Thanks, **Omar** ; good find. ---
**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/257 "2019-06-28T13:52:26Z")
Heā€™s a former cop, thatā€™s whatā€™s going on. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/258 "2019-06-28T14:07:16Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Per this article from less than a month ago: > [Judge denies 'stand your ground' defense in deadly road rage case | wtsp.com](https://www.wtsp.com/article/news/crime/judge-denies-stand-your-ground-defense-in-deadly-road-rage-case/67-9beb3695-601b-4875-8939-f9239d94b600) > > ā€¦the case is sitting at the Florida State Supreme Court. That link shows a road rage case resting on the ā€œStand your groundā€ principle. Is the SYG principle what you are referring to? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/259 "2019-06-28T14:47:17Z")
That article mentions the movie theater case, ā€œIn the Pasco movie theater shooting, Curtis Reevesā€™ stand your ground defense was initially denied. But a subsequent change in the law, placing the burden of proof on prosecutors, might eventually get him a new hearing. The state supreme court still has the case.ā€ BTW, allowing the stand your ground defense outside of oneā€™s home is a slippery slope that I think Florida will regret. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/260 "2019-06-28T17:47:31Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > BTW, allowing the stand your ground defense outside of oneā€™s home is a slippery slope that I think Florida will regret. Yup. Now, when I shoot someone, I have to remember to yell, ā€œHeā€™s coming right us!ā€ first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717.md?page=14)