# Florida Movie Theater Shooting Leaves One Dead In Altercation Over Texting

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 13, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717 "2014-01-13T22:44:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/21 "2014-01-14T01:45:45Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> The suspect was arrested wearing tactical pants and was heard telling the texter “You’re done” before firing his gun.

Just golden.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/22 "2014-01-14T01:53:13Z")

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Since he was a cop I’m guessing he will get probation.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/23 "2014-01-14T01:56:45Z")

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[Previous thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=713001).

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**Author:** ![Vagabond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/258eb7/32.png) [@Vagabond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vagabond)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/24 "2014-01-14T01:58:30Z")

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And if I read correctly…It was all during the previews. Not even during the movie.:smack:

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/25 "2014-01-14T02:08:24Z")

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I read this thread title and said, “Has to be Texas…no, Florida…no, Texas…no, Florida.” It’s Florida.

And thanks to that state’s “Who shoots first, wins” laws, he may not even be convicted of a crime…

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/26 "2014-01-14T02:37:20Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Since he was a cop I’m guessing he will get probation.

Naw. He’ll be reinstated and promoted.

God bless the N.R.A…

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/27 "2014-01-14T02:43:11Z")

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What do you suppose the killer’s wife is going through right now? I feel bad for her as well as for the dead guy and his widow. This was some fucked up shit right here.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/28 "2014-01-14T02:49:18Z")

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She’s the wife of a civil servant collecting a pension. She gets to collect his pension.

–shrug-- She made her speedloader, she sleeps in it.

And, this. You don’t like the laws of the land? Elect people who change them to laws you like. Otherwise, you get what you paid for. Change the system legally from within. Until that happens, suck it up and embrace the current law of the land.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/29 "2014-01-14T03:45:06Z")

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Twenty-eight posts over two threads and not a single Stand Your Ground crack.

I don’t know if I’m proud or sad.

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/30 "2014-01-14T06:53:01Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/31 "2014-01-14T06:54:05Z")

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> [@Bob Ducca](#):
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> The suspect was arrested wearing tactical pants and was heard telling the texter “You’re done” before firing his gun.

“UR dn”?

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/32 "2014-01-14T07:21:43Z")

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> [@Lazlo Hapsburg](#):
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> I have no idea what plays before movies since I haven’t been inside a movie theatre for more than 20 years.

Hint: You’ll wish you could install AdBlocker in the theater’s projectors.

ETA: Okay. They still show previews of coming movies – lots and lots of them – just like always. (That’s what was happening when the shooting went down.) But even before the previews, during the time that used to be nothing on the screen between shows, that’s now non-stop ads.

Used to be, movie theaters had a curtain in front of the screen, to make it look just like a live stage theater. Since there is now stuff playing on the screen non-stop (ads, previews, movie), modern theaters don’t even have that curtain any more.

The other thing that’s changed in theaters lately (but it’s been more like 30 years, not 20) is that there are a lot more movies, and theaters now have multiple (up to a dozen!) smallish auditoria showing different flicks instead of just one or two huge auditoria showing just one or two flicks.

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/33 "2014-01-14T07:31:15Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Twenty-eight posts over two threads and not a single Stand Your Ground crack.

You missed it:

> [@Quimby](#):
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> And thanks to that state’s “Who shoots first, wins” laws, he may not even be convicted of a crime…

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/34 "2014-01-14T08:37:08Z")

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The shooter was a retired police captain and SWAT team leader. I can’t imagine how a disciplined guy like that would do something so fucking stupid. Imagine the tense situations he handled during his long career. To freak out and pull out a gun over a guy texting?

That’s a tragedy for the victim and the shooter.

> **[Gunman shoots husband dead and injures wife in Florida movie theater](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538812/Gunman-shoots-husband-dead-injures-wife-dispute-texting-movie-Florida-theater.html)**
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> A 43-year-old father was shot dead by a retired cop in a Florida cinema after a row about him texting the daycare center caring for his child as they waited for the movie to start, witnesses said.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/35 "2014-01-14T08:40:42Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> The shooter was a retired police captain and SWAT team leader. I can’t imagine how a disciplined guy like that would do something so fucking stupid. Imagine the tense situations he handled during his long career. To freak out and pull out a gun over a guy texting?
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> That’s a tragedy for the victim and the shooter.  
> [Ex-cop challenged woman over texting in SAME movie theater just three weeks ago it emerges as lawyer claims retired cop had 'every right to defend himself and felt threatened' after victim threw popcorn in heated row | Daily Mail Online](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2538812/Gunman-shoots-husband-dead-injures-wife-dispute-texting-movie-Florida-theater.html)

Over a guy texting _before_ the movie had started, no less.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/36 "2014-01-14T08:41:00Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> If someone’s talking or texting (wtf, really? texting?) in a theater, either move to a different seat or complain to the manager. If the manager does nothing, shoot him instead.

There were only 25 patrons in the theater at the time. Plenty of empty seats to move to and get away from the ‘texter’.

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/37 "2014-01-14T08:54:24Z")

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> [@bienville](#):
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> It is. It’s good. Not _great_, but very good. It doesn’t exactly nail the correct tone for a black comedy but the performances are great- especially Joel Murray, it’s one of his best roles (if not _the_ best). Written and directed by Bobcat Goldthwait.

Thanks, I’ll keep an eye out for it.

And watch it in the safety of my own home!

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 9:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/38 "2014-01-14T09:07:00Z")

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Makes me wonder if the guy was in early dementia?

Very few cops ever rise up the ranks to Captain. I just can’t imagine someone with that training and background doing something like this.

There’s really no defense. He shot and killed an unarmed man. He’ll be in prison the rest of his life.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/39 "2014-01-14T12:39:10Z")

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people just have to much time on their hands and trying to be remembered for something …

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-movie-theater-shooting-leaves-one-dead-in-altercation-over-texting/678717/40 "2014-01-14T12:47:07Z")

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Absolutely justified shooting.

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