# Florida Pubbies Push Harris Under the Bus! Snoopy Happy Dance! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 1, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843 "2006-08-01T04:44:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Walter\_Windchill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Walter\_Windchill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walter_Windchill)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/21 "2006-08-01T17:51:09Z")
[QUOTE=Oakminster] Maybe Emmy Lou Harris said it best: \*Now the Queen of the Silver Dollar Is not as haughty as she seems She was once an ordinary girl with ordinary dreams But there’s a man who found her And he brought her to this world He’s the one who made a queen of a simple country girl \* > **[Queen Of The Silver Dollar Lyrics — Emmylou Harris ♬](https://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/harris-emmylou/queen-of-the-silver-dollar-6404.html)** > > Queen Of The Silver Dollar song text: She arrives in all her splendor Each night at nine o'clock Her chariot is the crosstown bus That stops right down the block Now the old piano minstrel plays her tune as she walk [/QUOTE] Emmylou… one name. Submitted FYI and because I love her. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/22 "2006-08-01T19:28:14Z")
[QUOTE=Zebra] Will she keep her house seat? [/QUOTE] So far as I can tell from [this,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris#2006_Senate_Race) she hasn’t even filed to run for re-election to her House seat. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/23 "2006-08-01T19:37:23Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] So far as I can tell from [this,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Harris#2006_Senate_Race) she hasn’t even filed to run for re-election to her House seat. [/QUOTE] But [ur=[http://www.ourcongress.org/race/fl13](http://www.ourcongress.org/race/fl13)]this site lists her as the incumbent and, apparently, only Pub candidate. Maybe she did file there as a back-up. And, the district being a safely Pub one . . . ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2006, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/24 "2006-08-01T19:45:03Z")
[Fixed link.](http://www.ourcongress.org/race/fl13) ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/25 "2006-08-02T03:11:24Z")
[QUOTE=Evil Captor] There has always been considerable speculation that her conduct of the 2000 election was illegal in some respects. [/QUOTE] Speculation where? After all, legitimate news sites don’t publish based on speculation. So what does that leave us with, blogs? OK, that’s reliable. Not. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/26 "2006-08-02T03:38:32Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] legitimate news sites don’t publish based on speculation. [/QUOTE] Where were you during the run up to our invasion of Iraq? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/27 "2006-08-02T03:44:14Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] After all, legitimate news sites don’t publish based on speculation. [/QUOTE] Sure they do; they just give it a different name. “White House sources,” for example. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/28 "2006-08-02T04:09:20Z")
Judith Miller, “Queen of Baghdad”, late of the \*NY Times \* and media ho extraordinaire. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/29 "2006-08-02T04:41:57Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Speculation where? After all, legitimate news sites don’t publish based on speculation. [/QUOTE] They do it constantly. 95% of CNN coverage during any given “developing situation” is going to consist of pure speculation. Hell, anyone who’s ever watched an election ought to know that legitimate news source’s stock-in-trade is speculation. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/30 "2006-08-02T04:51:34Z")
I don’t really think that those who were aware of Mrs. Harris’s conflict of interests in the election in 2000 had to wait for the press to speculate about her possible misconduct. Time for her to reap her reward and become a lobbyist. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/31 "2006-08-02T04:58:05Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Speculation where? [/QUOTE] [Here](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465045790/sr=8-1/qid=1154494615/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8683277-1203300?ie=UTF8) is a good start, though it’s mainly about 2002 and 2004. **Read it.** ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/32 "2006-08-02T06:00:08Z")
And [here’s](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000096I8F/sr=8-13/qid=1154498215/ref=sr_1_13/102-8683277-1203300?ie=UTF8) another. (Harris was instrumental in implementing the criminal-in-itself “felons purge list” in Florida in 2000.) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/33 "2006-08-02T20:48:54Z")
According to [this,](http://www.politics1.com/fl.htm) five other Pubs (and two Dems) are running for Harris’ 13th District seat. The primary election will be 9/5/06. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2006, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/34 "2006-08-02T22:08:55Z")
It doesn’t look like the [news](http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060802/ap_on_el_se/florida_senate_harris) is getting any better for her, either. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/35 "2006-08-03T01:00:50Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] [Here](http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0465045790/sr=8-1/qid=1154494615/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-8683277-1203300?ie=UTF8) is a good start, though it’s mainly about 2002 and 2004. **Read it.** [/QUOTE] According the Publishers Weekly Editorial Review, “much” of the author’s evidence is circumstansial, and his sourcing is “unclear”. I’ll pass on reading it, thanks. After googling Mr. Miller, I find he is, well, a blogger. > **[News From Underground has moved!](http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/)** What we have here is speculation on blogs and by people trying to sell books. Is there any factual information to indicate that Ms. Harris’ “conduct of the 2000 election was illegal in some respects”? ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/36 "2006-08-03T01:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] What we have here is speculation on blogs and by people trying to sell books. Is there any factual information to indicate that Ms. Harris’ “conduct of the 2000 election was illegal in some respects”? [/QUOTE] No, of course not. When the State Chairman of a Presidential candidate’s campaign is also the senior state official in charge of conducting an election which has been widely documented as having allegations of at least four distinct sorts of wrongdoing in at least six different counties, causing the longest disputed election in U.S. history (possibly barring 1824 and 1876), it would be absolutely scurrilous to suspect that she might not be 100% disinterested in the results of said election. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/37 "2006-08-03T01:30:47Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] After googling Mr. Miller, I find he is, well, a blogger. [/QUOTE] [Oh Noes! :eek: :eek: :eek:](http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/education/steinhardt/db/faculty/1216) Sure, the [right wing blogosphere has been co-opted in near entirety by the MSM](http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/3/21/13850/9332), but don’t let that cause you to paint with too broad a brush. There are still many decent, honest lefty bloggers. In fact their portion of the blogosphere continues to grow in size, sophistication and influence. Life is GOOD! ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/38 "2006-08-03T01:45:37Z")
And another dittohead tries his/her hand at Argument By Attrition. Of course, this one admits that he/she won’t even read the cite. A little too much honesty there, **Carol** - you might not want to do that next time. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/39 "2006-08-03T04:21:13Z")
[QUOTE=Merijeek] And another dittohead tries his/her hand at Argument By Attrition. Of course, this one admits that he/she won’t even read the cite. A little too much honesty there, **Carol** - you might not want to do that next time. -Joe [/QUOTE] Why should I read a “cite” that is based on circumstansial evidence, with unclear sourcing? (Shouldn’t a Ph.D. like Mr. Miller at least know, and follow, the protocols of proper citation? :dubious: ) A blog, by definition, is commentary, not evidence. I asked if there were any evidence that Ms. Harris’ “conduct of the 2000 election was illegal in some respects.” Apparently there isn’t any. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/40 "2006-08-03T04:58:57Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] A blog, by definition, is commentary, not evidence. [/quote] No, it isn’t, **Carol.** [QUOTE=Carol Stream] I asked if there were any evidence that Ms. Harris’ “conduct of the 2000 election was illegal in some respects.” [/QUOTE] Please bear in mind that her conduct might have been **criminal** even if it wasn’t **illegal.** [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843.md?page=3)