# Florida Pubbies Push Harris Under the Bus!  Snoopy Happy Dance!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 1, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843 "2006-08-01T04:44:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/81 "2006-08-07T21:50:26Z")

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Has anyone got dibs on cracking them for the marrow?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/82 "2006-08-07T22:20:34Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Has anyone got dibs on cracking them for the marrow?  
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You’d eat flesh from _those_ bodies?

EWWWWWWWWWW!!!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/83 "2006-08-07T22:29:08Z")

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Ate a ton of catfish, growing up. One slimy bottom-feeder is much like another.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/84 "2006-08-07T22:47:25Z")

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[QUOTE=elucidator]  
Ate a ton of catfish, growing up. One slimy bottom-feeder is much like another.  
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And I eat lobster. You have a point.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2006, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/85 "2006-08-07T23:19:11Z")

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Its not like they were _lawyers_, or anything.

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/86 "2006-08-08T00:10:47Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
Not in my experience. But when in doubt, consult the [dictionary:](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criminal)

n. One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.

That’s the one and only entry.

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Did you honestly think no one would click your link?

> [@the dictionary page you linked to](#):
>
> crim·i·nal  
> _adj._
> 
> 1. Of, involving, or having the nature of crime: criminal abuse.
> 2. Relating to the administration of penal law.
> 3. 
> 1. Guilty of crime.
> 2. Characteristic of a criminal.
> 
> 4. Shameful; disgraceful: a criminal waste of talent.  
> _n._
> 
> ```
> One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.
> 
> ```

Definitions #1, #3.2 and possibly #4 are all perfectly applicable to Ms. Harris.

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**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/87 "2006-08-08T00:29:45Z")

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[QUOTE=Sublight]  
Did you honestly think no one would click your link?

Definitions #1, #3.2 and possibly #4 are all perfectly applicable to Ms. Harris.  
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Oh great. Here comes the grammar argument :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/88 "2006-08-08T01:26:02Z")

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Go roll your eyes somewhere else. There’s plenty to demonstrate Harris’s scumminess without resorting to dictionaries in my opinion, but if someone wants to post something that’s obviously and demonstrably false, then I’m going to call them on it.

Unless, of course, you want to argue the grammar of “the one and only entry.”

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**Author:** ![Leviosaurus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/439d5e/32.png) [@Leviosaurus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leviosaurus)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/89 "2006-08-08T17:22:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Sublight]  
Go roll your eyes somewhere else. There’s plenty to demonstrate Harris’s scumminess without resorting to dictionaries in my opinion, but if someone wants to post something that’s obviously and demonstrably false, then I’m going to call them on it.

Unless, of course, you want to argue the grammar of “the one and only entry.”  
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Loathe as I am to make **John Mace** ’s argument for him, you prompt me…

1. Do you understand the difference between an adjective and a noun?

2. Are you using the term ‘criminal’ as an adjective or a noun?

3. How many entries are there for the term ‘criminal’ when used as a noun?

FTR - I think Harris is a criminal.

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**Author:** ![The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_chao_goes_mu/32/3191_2.png) [@The\_Chao\_Goes\_Mu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Chao_Goes_Mu)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/90 "2006-08-09T16:59:40Z")

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Just for the record I read the thread title as “Florida pubes push hair under bus”

I need to get more sleep.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/91 "2006-08-09T17:24:21Z")

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[QUOTE=The Chao Goes Mu]  
Just for the record I read the thread title as “Florida pubes push hair under bus”  
[/QUOTE]

That’s still fairly accurate.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2006, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-pubbies-push-harris-under-the-bus-snoopy-happy-dance/366843/92 "2006-08-09T18:09:47Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
[dictionary:](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/criminal)

> [@](#):
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> n. One that has committed or been legally convicted of a crime.

That’s the one and only entry.  
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(One that has committed a crime) **OR** (One that has been legally convicted of a crime.)

If (A) OR (B), then criminal.

Not (B).

(A) = (One that has committed a crime)

Is (A) true? **BrainGlutton** might believe that Harris has committed a crime, but has not been convicted of it. Then (A) is true and “Harris is a criminal” is true.

But what if what **BrainGlutton** believes that Harris did is not defined as a crime by applicable statutes? The question becomes what is a crime? Is a crime only that which is defined as a crime by applicable statutes?

A [crime](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crime) is:

> [@](#):
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> 1. An act committed or omitted in violation of a law forbidding or commanding it and for which punishment is imposed upon conviction.
> 2. Unlawful activity: statistics relating to violent crime.
> 3. A serious offense, especially one in violation of morality.
> 4. An unjust, senseless, or disgraceful act or condition: It’s a crime to squander our country’s natural resources.

Thus, “Harris is a criminal” can mean:

- Harris has committed a serious offense in violation of morality.
- Harris has committed an unjust, senseless, or disgraceful act.

So even if what Harris did is not a crime as defined in our criminal justice system, **BrainGlutton** ’s assertion can be true.

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