# Florida Republican who lost congressional special election by 59 percentage points won't concede

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 17, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948 "2022-01-17T20:00:10Z")\
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Why would anyone believe that there are shape shifting lizards?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Why would anyone believe that there are shape shifting lizards? -

Look around. Do you see any lizards? No? That proves they exist.  
Duh.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Why would anyone believe that there are shape shifting lizards?

> **[David Icke | Reptoid humanoids](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke#Reptoid_humanoids)**
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> Icke believes that an inter-dimensional race of reptilian beings called the Archons have hijacked the earth and are stopping humanity from realising its true potential. He claims they are the same beings as the Anunnaki, deities from the Babylonian creation myth the Enûma Eliš, and the fallen angels, or Watchers, who mated with human women in the Biblical apocrypha.
> He believes that a genetically modified human/Archon hybrid race of shape-shifting reptilians, known as the "Babylonian Brotherhood...

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
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> [@Icarus](#):
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> We need to institute some sort of contractual obligation for people running for office. Something that they sign when they file that says, “I agree to abide by the election results conferred by (x official body). If I win, I will be sworn into office on (date). If I lose, I will publicly concede within 2 calendar days of the declaration of the results. If I choose to dispute the results, or fail to concede defeat, I will be liable for $X (some large sum) to be paid to (government body overseeing the election).”

The poster boy for Republicans refusing to concede is Donald Trump, who never met a contract he wasn’t willing to break if he thought it would make him an extra dime. There’s no way the Trumpwannabes would ever honor such a contract, no matter how many times they signed it.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/25 "2022-01-18T02:22:56Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> Why would anyone believe that there are shape shifting lizards?

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Look around. Do you see any lizards? No? That proves they exist.

Yeah, I mean, if they weren’t shapeshifters, there’d be lizards everywhere!

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/26 "2022-01-18T17:08:12Z")

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Dipshit Loren Culp did the same thing after he lost by over 13 percentage points to Jay Inlsee in the last WA governor’s race. Culp is still out there asking for donations to stop that steal.

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> The election was clear and decisive, with incumbent Jay Inslee winning re-election over Loren Culp by over 13 points. This marked the largest margin of victory in a Washington gubernatorial race since [Gary Locke](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Locke) won reelection in 2000. Inslee’s landslide victory was fueled by getting over 74% of the vote in [King County](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_County,_Washington), which was the highest a Democrat got there in state history. King County, home to [Seattle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle), has about a third of the state’s voters.[[43]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Washington_gubernatorial_election#cite_note-53)[[44]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Washington_gubernatorial_election#cite_note-54) In addition, this was the first time since [2000](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Washington_gubernatorial_election) that a Democrat won a county in [Eastern Washington](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Washington) with Inslee winning [Whitman County](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitman_County,_Washington).[[45]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Washington_gubernatorial_election#cite_note-55) In spite of the large margin of victory, Culp refused to concede his loss and did not give a concession speech, while making claims of irregularities which Republican [Secretary of State](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_of_State_of_Washington) [Kim Wyman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Wyman) characterized as “unsubstantiated”.[[46]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Washington_gubernatorial_election#cite_note-56)
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> Despite this, Culp still ran ahead of the top-ticket presidential candidate, [Donald Trump](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump), by about 4 points.

That last sentence cracks me up. While Culp got his ass handed to him, it wasn’t as bad as Trump’s poor showing.

From [2020 Washington gubernatorial election - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Washington_gubernatorial_election#Results_2)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/27 "2022-01-18T17:12:55Z")

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Well there you go. If Trump really won, and Culp did better than Trump, then logically, Culp must have won, too.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Culp is still out there asking for donations to stop that steal.

As with most things with (R) behind them, it’s all about the grift.

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**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\
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Why challenge the results when you lost by 59 points? Because Demonrats are crafty, that’s why! If they only steal elections by one or two points every time, it would be obvious, so they randomize the volume of votes they steal. It’s just as easy to fraudulently create 60 points’ worth of votes as 6 points’ worth, so they manufacture a landslide every once in a while to make the closer steals look legitimate.

(😜 if it wasn’t obvious.)

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**Author:** ![Max\_S](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@Max\_S](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_S)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/30 "2022-01-18T19:31:51Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Look around. Do you see any lizards? No? That proves they exist.  
> Duh.

Lots of lizards in Florida. That’s why I’m skeptical of the claim that they shapeshift.

~Max

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2022, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/31 "2022-01-18T22:11:28Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> pretty soon their opponents will be frightened off from even running

Well, maybe.

Maybe instead they’ll be so indignant at the behavior that they’ll roust the seditionists instead.

I have not yet given up hope.

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In any case, she just got sworn into the House of Representatives a few minutes ago, so good luck to him.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/33 "2022-01-19T00:29:09Z")

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What do ya mean I won? I demand a recount!

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Another bit of evidence to put in the column of:
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> “Republicans are the party of the mentally ill”

I don’t know if you were being facetious or not, but IMO theres a lot of truth to this, however its cluster B personality disorders that their behavior aligns with. Narcissism and sociopathy mainly.

I’m not saying all GOP politicians have cluster B disorders, but as a group they use a lot of cluster B tactics.

- minimization (what happened on January 6th was minor and we should forget it)
- DARVO
- gaslighting (the 1/6 coup attempt was minor, anyway it was done by Antifa)
- projection (democrats are trying to undermine democracy)
- moving the goal posts (the 1/6 coup wasn’t serious since nobody was charged with sedition)
- name calling
- smear campaigns (democrats drink the blood of babies)
- incessant lying (Trump lied 20,000 times in 4 years)
- misrepresentation (democrats want universal health care. That means they want a communist state where they can take away your guns)
- Playing the victim

It goes on I’m sure

The shitty part is that the solution of cluster B toxicity is to cut them out of your life. Thats not an option right now.

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> What do ya mean I won? I demand a recount!

That’s basically 2016 Trump. It wasn’t enough to be President, he needed to prove he won the popular vote. 🙄

(Spoiler: He didn’t.)

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This is a concerning trend overall, but extremely lopsided districts often attract losing candidates with more than a few screws loose.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/37 "2022-01-19T08:04:14Z")

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Sure, you would never see that kind of ridiculous stuff in a major, important, contentious office like the presidential elections.

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> The Republicans aren’t exactly sending us their best.
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> [Inmate Release Information Detail](http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSearch/detail.aspx?Page=Detail&DCNumber=D21693&TypeSearch=IR)

Wow! Not just one conviction – that’s quite the rap sheet. The guy is practically a career criminal! No wonder he identifies as Republican!

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> DARVO

What does this mean?

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2022, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-republican-who-lost-congressional-special-election-by-59-percentage-points-wont-concede/957948/40 "2022-01-19T13:01:47Z")

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Looks like it’s [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARVO):

Deny  
Attack  
Reverse Victim and Offender

I had never heard of it either.

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