# "Florida Schools Will Teach How Slavery Brought ‘Personal Benefit’ to Black People"

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 20, 2023, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304 "2023-07-20T14:46:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/201 "2023-07-27T21:55:05Z")

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Yes, that is true, Reform Jews recognize patrilineal descent, as long as the child is raised to identify as Jewish, so I was incorrect. I’m not sure how they feel about children of Jewish mothers who aren’t raised as Jews.

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**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2023, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/202 "2023-07-27T22:30:53Z")

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To go out on a limb here, Jews and Nazis disagree on some things.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/203 "2023-07-28T02:58:15Z")

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> [@carrps](#):
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> _Greg’s ethnicity is American white, and he is not Jewish, despite the fact that his father was._
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> I don’t think the Nazis would have made such fine distinctions.

I’m guessing this week the Jews are happy not to have him on the team.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/204 "2023-07-28T05:37:50Z")

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Back to the original subject of Florida’s leadership gutting the academic curriculum and replacing it with straight-up racist propaganda:

> <https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684647089270075392?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw>

> <https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684647407970078721?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw>

> <https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684648034561359872?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw>

> <https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684648355287236608?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw>

News story:

> **[Florida schools OK use of curriculum by PragerU, an unaccredited right-wing...](https://www.pnj.com/story/news/education/2023/07/26/prageru-curriculum-florida-schools-explainer/70472668007/)**
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> Florida schools approved use of PragerU curriculum days after the state Department of Education released new, controversial Black history standards.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/205 "2023-07-28T06:20:43Z")

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Well, what could possibly be wrong with that? PragerU must be a university of some sort, why it’s right there in the name! Or at least an educational institution of some kind. Surely not a right-wing propaganda think tank.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/206 "2023-07-28T10:49:39Z")

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All I want to know is what language does _Prager_ mean “fuck”?

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/207 "2023-07-28T13:35:55Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684648355287236608?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw](https://twitter.com/johnknefel/status/1684648355287236608?s=46&t=levRRq0M3AXoqQwxPGCqBw)

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> The kids later travel to meet Christopher Columbus, who tells them: “The place I discovered was beautiful, but it wasn’t exactly a paradise of civilization, and the native people were far from peaceful”

“That’s why it was okay to cut off their hands if they didn’t bring me gold!”

> **[Coard: Five facts proving Columbus was one of history's worst monsters](https://www.phillytrib.com/commentary/coard-five-facts-proving-columbus-was-one-of-historys-worst-monsters/article_016313a3-3e44-58c7-a815-a890292aff5c.html)**
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> Monday, Oct. 14 is Columbus Day this year. If you celebrate Christopher Columbus (born Cristofor Colombo) on that day or any other day, you are a celebrator of racist genocide,

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/208 "2023-07-28T13:50:26Z")

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Europe wan’t exactly “a paradise of civilization”, either.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/209 "2023-07-28T13:52:56Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> I’m not sure how they feel about children of Jewish mothers who aren’t raised as Jews.

We generally don’t consider them to be Jews. But if one showed up and said, “i identify as Jewish”, we’d probably accept that. We’d probably also recommend our adult education program, to help them understand what it means to be Jewish.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/210 "2023-07-28T13:53:31Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Back to the original subject of Florida’s leadership gutting the academic curriculum and replacing it with straight-up racist propaganda:

I wish this were the onion…

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/211 "2023-07-28T14:07:48Z")

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It’s not all that hyperbolic to note this is one step removed from some of the shite the Nazis used to teach their schoolchildren.

> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Europe wan’t exactly “a paradise of civilization”, either.

True but are you really expecting accuracy or consistency (or even basic human decency) from those asshats?

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/212 "2023-07-28T14:11:08Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> True but are you really expecting accuracy or consistency (or even basic human decency) from those asshats?

Of course not. Just pointing out an additional problem with the argument being made.

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**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/213 "2023-07-28T15:09:45Z")

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Holy fucking shit. That is 10,000 times worse than the “personal benefit” crap. “Europe is committing suicide by enabling mass immigration…whiteness and conservatism are under attack”. These people are just straight up Nazis.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/214 "2023-07-28T15:30:53Z")

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> [@Thing.Fish](#):
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> These people are just straight up Nazis

I don’t know why people keep wanting to call these RWNJs Nazis when we have our own home-grown label.

> **[Ku Klux Klan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan)**
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> The Ku Klux Klan (/ˌkuː klʌks ˈklæn, ˌkjuː-/),\[c\] commonly shortened to the KKK or the Klan is the name of several historical and current American white supremacist, far-right terrorist organizations and hate groups. The Klan was "the first organized terror movement in American history." Their primary targets are African Americans, Hispanics, Jews, Latinos, Asian Americans, Native Americans, Italian Americans, Irish Americans, and Catholics, as well as immigrants, Three separate Klans have e...

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/215 "2023-07-28T15:32:08Z")

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Birds of a feather flock together.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/216 "2023-07-29T06:46:25Z")

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Seems there is some backlash. What is more amazing, to me, is that there are black republicans (apart from Clarence Thomas). Seems they have voted for the [Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces-party) Who could have guessed???

> **[DeSantis rocked by Black Republican revolt over slavery comments](https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/28/disgusting-black-republicans-livid-over-desantis-slavery-attack-00108776)**
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> Most saw it as an unforced error at a time when Black Republicans feel they're making strides within the party.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/217 "2023-07-29T08:53:39Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> What is more amazing, to me, is that there are black republicans

Same reason as there are Log Cabin republicans - some combo of those leopards you mentioned, and “Fuck you I got mine!”

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/218 "2023-07-29T10:39:12Z")

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Also opportunism. Republican leaders and media assholes are so eager to try and prove they aren’t racist that they’ll elevate any Black voices who are willing to spread their bullshit. It’s a good living for those without morals.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2023, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/219 "2023-07-29T13:34:29Z")

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I have a friend who used to be a log cabin republican. He was in favor of low taxes Then he started paying attention.

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**Post date:** [July 31, 2023, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-schools-will-teach-how-slavery-brought-personal-benefit-to-black-people/987304/220 "2023-07-31T17:24:24Z")

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More on the PragerU videos:

“Slavery is as old as time and has taken place in every corner of the world, even amongst the people I just left,” he tells the children. “Being taken as a slave is better than being killed, no? I don’t see the problem.”

> **[PragerU cartoon approved for use in Florida public schools suggests slavery...](https://www.stillmoretosay.com/p/prageru-cartoon-approved-for-use)**
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> Other videos distort history; one says slavery legalization helped U.S. ‘achieve something great’

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