# Florida wear anything that is a diguise and get arrested.

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**Created:** [February 24, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301 "2010-02-24T20:15:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/1 "2010-02-24T20:15:35Z")

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Florida I mock you for another stupid law and note once again the entertainment value in watching how you carryout public policies.

[Article](http://tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/sad-day-for-a-clown-tampa-man-jailed-for-wearing-illegal-mask/1075485)

You can’t wear anything in public that is a disguise in Florida past the age of 16. The above guy had on a clown wig and mask when walking down a street with friends. Time to go to jail Bozo. People dressed for Halloween break this law. Does Liberty Mutual send out those people in costume in Florida? Do they arrest women for having a wig and too much makeup? Does dressing Goth get you jail time? Do they have costumed singing messengers in that state? What happens when they have a parade? A final word Walt Disney must have been laughing at Florida and how he dressed thousands in costumes everyday, but they couldn’t touch him because they were on his property. No Disney character has ever strayed off the park property without going to jail right?

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**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/2 "2010-02-24T23:19:26Z")

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McDonalds employs a Ronald for each US state. I guess they’ll have to lay Florida’s Ronald off. Is a toupee a disguise? Are some Muslim women going to have trouble with this? What about Santa Claus? Is Billy Marlin safe outside the stadium?

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**Author:** ![Serenata67](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/serenata67/32/10646_2.png) [@Serenata67](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Serenata67)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/3 "2010-02-25T04:22:04Z")

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Mom, why didn’t Santa come this year?

Because he’s in Jail, honey.

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**Author:** ![Small\_Hen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ad7895/32.png) [@Small\_Hen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Small_Hen)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/4 "2010-02-25T04:32:21Z")

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What about transvestites or pre-op transexuals?

Some days I think my entire life has been a disguise. Guess I’d better stay clear of Florida.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/5 "2010-02-25T04:41:17Z")

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> [@Small\_Hen](#):
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> What about transvestites or pre-op transexuals?

Judging from my experience in Florida, it’s already a very unpleasant place for transpeople.

Back To The OP

It isn’t that dumb a law. Philadelphia passed a similar law (though with exceptions for Halloween and masquerade events). The purpose was to stop masked demonstrations at the Republican national convention from becoming riots. Masks were still allowed if they, in themselves, represented some kind of speech.

Oh, I also know of at least one convenience store in Philly that does not allow patrons to wear masks of any kind. The sign included depictions of several varieties of ski mask. I am not making this up.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/6 "2010-02-25T04:48:58Z")

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> [@AskNott](#):
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> Are some Muslim women going to have trouble with this?

During the latest silliness about headscarves up this way, one of the arguments was, “It’s antisocial to cover your face in public!”

I was like, Have you ever actually _been_ to Montreal in January?

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/7 "2010-02-25T05:04:27Z")

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It’s not a very good disguise if people _know_ it’s a disguise, and it’s your own fault for doing such a bad job.

BTW, did you know that most disguise failure results from not altering one’s walk/gait/pace enough? Long before you apply prosthetics or changing your hair, you should have your disguise movements identified and well-practiced. We recognize a person from his or her walk before we do from facial characteristics.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/8 "2010-02-25T06:41:31Z")

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Somebody else passing the law doesn’t remove this one from being ridiculous. It just adds one more place to the list for mocking.

Private properties such as a business can restrict people from being there as much as they want. A strict enforcement of no masks in our bank is fine for them. They can do that with the trespass laws. Once again Florida I mock you for a stupid draconian law.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/9 "2010-02-25T06:59:02Z")

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There’s a whole lot of people who wear masks of respectability. They ought to be the first to be locked up.

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**Author:** ![SecTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@SecTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecTech)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/10 "2010-02-25T07:31:43Z")

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Florida has always been kind of schizo. On another blog, Chuck uses the expression “the F State”. Although I am, and have been for a long time, overseas, it is still my home and I find it eminently amusing when the silliness starts.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/11 "2010-02-25T07:37:53Z")

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I got a new idea to promote tourism in Florida

Florida: Conceal your gun not your face

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**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/12 "2010-02-25T10:16:21Z")

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I wonder if this was enacted as an anti-Klan measure.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/13 "2010-02-25T11:07:27Z")

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You can still conceal your pistol, right?

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/14 "2010-02-25T11:31:47Z")

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Well, so much for Anonymous’ demonstrations against Scientology.

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**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/15 "2010-02-25T12:16:36Z")

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Things like this are why florida has it’s own category on Fark.

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**Author:** ![panman\_1960](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/919ad9/32.png) [@panman\_1960](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panman_1960)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/16 "2010-02-25T16:29:52Z")

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I, as a full time motorcycle rider, was concerned over this especially in cold weather when I wear sunglasses and a bandana over my face. Then I did a very small amount of research. This arrest will be difficult to prosecute I think.  
FLORIDA Chapter 876 Criminal Anarchy, Treason and other Crimes Against Public Order  
876.13 Wearing mask, hood, or other device on public property.–No person or persons shall in this state, while wearing any mask, hood, or device whereby any portion of the face is so hidden, concealed, or covered as to conceal the identity of the wearer, enter upon, or be, or appear upon or within the public property of any municipality or county of the state.

876.155 Applicability; ss. 876.12-876.15.–The provisions of ss. 876.12-876.15 apply only if the person was wearing the mask, hood, or other device:

(1) With the intent to deprive any person or class of persons of the equal protection of the laws or of equal privileges and immunities under the laws or for the purpose of preventing the constituted authorities of this state or any subdivision thereof from, or hindering them in, giving or securing to all persons within this state the equal protection of the laws;

(2) With the intent, by force or threat of force, to injure, intimidate, or interfere with any person because of the person’s exercise of any right secured by federal, state, or local law or to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from exercising any right secured by federal, state, or local law;

(3) With the intent to intimidate, threaten, abuse, or harass any other person; or

(4) While she or he was engaged in conduct that could reasonably lead to the institution of a civil or criminal proceeding against her or him, with the intent of avoiding identification in such a proceeding.  
later, Tom.

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/17 "2010-02-25T16:36:38Z")

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These types of laws were, as suspected, largely anti-Klan measures. AFAIK, in most states, you can still wear a hood but you have to get special judicial permission. It’s similar to organizing a rally- sure, we have the right to assemble, but you’ve gotta ask nicely first.

ETA: As you can see in Panman’s post, the verbiage of points 1 & 2 make perfect sense when seen in an anti-KKK light.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/18 "2010-02-25T16:38:07Z")

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Clown-boy was also charged with “resisting arrest without violence.” What does that mean, exactly? He sat on the ground and refused to move?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/19 "2010-02-25T16:45:20Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Clown-boy was also charged with “resisting arrest without violence.” What does that mean, exactly? He sat on the ground and refused to move?

RTFA. He ran when the cop car pulled up. Which is apparently why wearing the mask fit **Panman** criteria 4), he was commiting a crime when he was wearing the mask.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2010, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/florida-wear-anything-that-is-a-diguise-and-get-arrested/530301/20 "2010-02-25T17:12:04Z")

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Well, this is going to be a problem for the sci fi convention goers.

And the people in cow suits that stand in front of Chick Fil-A’s

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