# Florida's Stand Your Ground law - good or bad law? Poorly understood? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 22, 2012, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560 "2012-03-22T23:59:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![enomaj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@enomaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enomaj)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/501 "2012-03-27T16:32:50Z")
My previous post, **Terr** , was to dispute the assertion that the parents said the voice didn’t belong to their son. According to them they never said that. Take it or leave it. I’m assuming you’ll leave it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/502 "2012-03-27T16:33:35Z")
> [@](#): > > Using that word repeatedly is not helping your case. On the other hand, linking to pictures of some kid in a t-shirt has me totally convinced. Does that mean we can dismiss everyone who dislikes Obama because of “re-nig” stickers? ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/503 "2012-03-27T16:34:32Z")
> [@enomaj](#): > > My previous post, **Terr** , was to disput your assertion that the parents said the voice didn’t belong to their son. According to them they never said that. Take it or leave it. I’m assuming you’ll leave it. The father made that statement to the police - that it wasn’t his son’s voice. That’s what the police reported. I am sure the police recorded that statement at some point and have the father’s signature on it - that’s standard police procedure. What the father says weeks after in the middle of national controversy is another matter. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/504 "2012-03-27T16:39:40Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > It’s an accurate description. The “Pussy Ass Cracker” tshirts featuring Zimmerman. The call by Black Panthers for “5000 black men” to commit a kidnapping (for which they can get up to life in prison in Florida). It’s an accurate description. It’s overbroad, offensive, inflammatory, and demagogic. It characterizes everyone who is outraged by the killing of an unarmed youth as enjoying a kind of sexual pleasure (orgasm) in what might reasonably considered justifiable anger. And, I might add, it sounds pretty racist. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/505 "2012-03-27T16:42:13Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > It’s overbroad, offensive, inflammatory, and demagogic. It characterizes everyone who is outraged by the killing of an unarmed youth as enjoying a kind of sexual pleasure (orgasm) in what might reasonably considered justifiable anger. And, I might add, it sounds pretty racist. Thank you for your opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/506 "2012-03-27T16:46:21Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > The father made that statement to the police - that it wasn’t his son’s voice. That’s what the police reported. I am sure the police recorded that statement at some point and have the father’s signature on it - that’s standard police procedure. What the father says weeks after in the middle of national controversy is another matter. So you simply aren’t reading anything that people are posting? Why should anyone listen to what you’re saying when you refuse to address what has been presented? ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Colossus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.colossus/32/9423_2.png) [@Dr.Colossus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Colossus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/507 "2012-03-27T20:15:36Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > So you simply aren’t reading anything that people are posting? > > Why should anyone listen to what you’re saying when you refuse to address what has been presented? don’t feed him. his basic stance is that we should believe the cops, so much so that we can now ignore eyewitness testimony if the cops say it conflicts with that their report. never mind the fact the witnesses say the cops REFUSED to take their FULL statement and only wrote down the parts that corroborated Zim’s bits– the fundamental clause he’s basing his argument on is that the cops were beyond reproach and what they say is the way it i was. but when you pin him down, he refuses to admit he even believes the cops did a good job. classic. he’ll bait you and demand details to support your cause, yet won’t even express his basic beliefs on the subject. this is a waste of everyone’s time. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/508 "2023-04-23T11:04:57Z")
I think business representatives in Florida are now being confronted by citizens who seem to justify their altercations with the Stand the Ground law. I’m thinking about the Doordash driver who was raped this week and the Instacart driver who was confronted by the resident where the resident shot the Instacart driver’s car and the resident’s foot got injured. I could see how Doordash and Instacart could maybe potentially sue Florida in federal court over the Stand Your Ground law. But I don’t have a JD and don’t know about law much at all. ---
**Author:** ![Eric1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@Eric1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eric1)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2023, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560/509 "2023-04-23T12:15:37Z")
It’s weird how all of the 'Stand Your Ground or Duty to Retreat into Home laws are different from my personal circumstance. I’ve been randomly confronted by crazily aggressive people at work and where I live at times. Even though I’ve always owned property and worked at a job where I’m legally responsible for my subordinates, my first thought is always to leave, to move like a squirrel that ate some meth. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-stand-your-ground-law-good-or-bad-law-poorly-understood/616560.md?page=25)