# Florida's Voter Fraud Police & lives destroyed **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 1, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426 "2023-05-01T18:28:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/1 "2023-05-01T18:28:41Z")
Sometimes an article really gets my attention. Take DeSantis’ Voter Fraud police. This kind of thing is obviously a political stunt. It’s attacking a problem that doesn’t exist in any material way. It’s meant to convey a quiet acceptance of the “election was rigged” theory from 2020. It’s meant to shore up the Republican primary voting base. But it also attacks those who are scraping through in society, the vulnerable, the working class, minorities, the people who are just getting by. Even if charges get dropped, and just about all of them have been dropped so far, the people who get accused have their lives ruined. Oh, and of course, it does its job in making people not believe in our electoral system, which is part of the purpose of the law, too. It’s rotten to the core, and is a perfect example of what Republican government means in today’s world. > **[The first arrests from DeSantis’s election police take extensive toll](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/04/30/desantis-election-police-arrests-florida/)** > > One by one, many of the initial 20 arrests made by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis's Office of Election Crimes and Security have stumbled in court. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2023, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/2 "2023-05-01T18:42:12Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > Take DeSantis’ Voter Fraud police. This kind of thing is obviously a political stunt. It’s attacking a problem that doesn’t exist in any material way. Those are the best kinds of problems; no definable cause and no resolution, so you can spin them out endlessly to instill fear, uncertainty, and doubt, and then when people complain, you respond with, “Well, how would _you_ solve this problem, huh?” DeSantis is a fascist little wiener. Unfortunately, the public seems to be largely accepting of fascist wieners of late. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/3 "2023-05-02T12:59:34Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > and then when people complain, you respond with, “Well, how would _you_ solve this problem, huh?” Or you respond with “…so I created an Office of Election Crimes and Security that has already made over 20 arrests of individuals suspected of election fraud ” ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/4 "2023-05-02T14:07:50Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > “…so I created an Office of Election Crimes and Security that has already made over 20 arrests of individuals suspected of election fraud ” And how many convictions? ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/5 "2023-05-02T14:34:29Z")
“If they weren’t guilty, why did they resist arrest?” Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/6 "2023-05-02T14:42:53Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > But it also attacks those who are scraping through in society, the vulnerable, the working class, minorities, the people who are just getting by. As with many Republican policies, _The Cruelty Is The Point._ ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/7 "2023-05-02T14:53:50Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > And how many convictions? Hey, its not my fault that the courts are controlled by the Soros deepstate. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/8 "2023-05-02T14:56:52Z")
> [@survinga](#): > > It’s rotten to the core, and is a perfect example of what Republican government means in today’s world. Amen, amen, amen! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/9 "2023-05-02T15:51:03Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > DeSantis is a fascist little wiener. I am Carnivorousplant, and I endorse this message. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/10 "2023-05-02T18:29:42Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > Or you respond with “…so I created an Office of Election Crimes and Security that has already made over 20 arrests of individuals suspected of election fraud ” Trying to figure out–are you in support of this office and this move? ---
**Author:** ![tofor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tofor/32/13727_2.png) [@tofor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tofor)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/11 "2023-05-02T19:17:26Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > Trying to figure out–are you in support of this office and this move? No. That was meant to be deeply cynical. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/12 "2023-05-02T19:18:16Z")
Got it–thank you! ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/13 "2023-05-02T20:22:47Z")
Remember people, when it comes to Reactionary Right nuttery, _nothing_ is so far out there that somebody doesn’t whole-heartedly support making it even worse. All sarcasm needs to be labeled as such. That’s another the Reactionary Right nuttery has ruined. ---
**Author:** ![survinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@survinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/survinga)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/14 "2023-05-02T20:53:57Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > As with many Republican policies, _The Cruelty Is The Point._ Yes, but it’s also “Cruelty with a Purpose”. They get to be cruel, and casually wreck people’s lives. At the same time, they sow doubt and fear among those communities, which depresses voter turnout. So, there’s a point to it, as well, beyond the cruelty. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/15 "2023-05-02T20:54:27Z")
Another way of expressing a similar sentiment is in the form of Wolfpup’s Law of Evanescent Satire: “Every satirical article published in _The Onion_ ridiculing Republican lunacy eventually ceases to be satire and becomes a news story”. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/16 "2023-05-02T20:58:46Z")
And not too long after that, it becomes actual enacted policy or law. At least in Those parts of the country. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/17 "2023-05-02T21:04:28Z")
Unfortunately for us hardy cold-weather northerners, “Those” parts of the country are almost universally the warm-weather ones, thus proving that there is no God. Or if there is, that he has a really nasty sense of humour. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/18 "2023-05-02T21:11:17Z")
Way back in college one of my roommates had a saying. I thought it was pretty good then, but over the years it’s proven far better than youthful me ever knew. > [@Jim M](#): > > Humanity is God’s idea of a practical joke. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/19 "2023-05-02T21:31:59Z")
> [@tofor](#): > > No. That was meant to be deeply cynical. > **[A quote by Lily Tomlin](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/55961-no-matter-how-cynical-you-get-it-is-impossible-to)** > > No matter how cynical you get, it is impossible to keep up. ---
**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2023, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/floridas-voter-fraud-police-lives-destroyed/983426/20 "2023-05-05T17:18:41Z")
Just to underline your depression,you are not alone. They’re trying on something similar here. > **[‘I was denied my right’: voter ID rules prove barrier for some in England](https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/may/04/i-was-denied-my-right-voter-id-rules-a-barrier-for-some-in-england)** > > Wrong documents and a requirement to remove masks leave some unable to vote in local elections