# Fluoridation cancelled in west Florida **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 6, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816 "2011-10-06T19:42:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mufatango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@mufatango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mufatango)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/1 "2011-10-06T19:42:49Z")
Tea party politics in [action.](http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/article1195147.ece) Local citizens Irene Reilly and Santa Battaglia praised the decision, despite the objections of several communiss. “Our precious bodily fluids are safe again,” declared Brigadier General Ripper. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/2 "2011-10-06T19:48:26Z")
> [@](#): > > Some speakers Tuesday compared [fluoridation] to Soviet and Nazi practices and warned of cancer, reduced IQ and deteriorating bones. I can spot one thing on that list that is stunningly self-evident. ---
**Author:** ![tr0psn4j](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/958977/32.png) [@tr0psn4j](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tr0psn4j)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/3 "2011-10-06T19:51:22Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > I can spot one thing on that list that is stunningly self-evident. Cancer? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/4 "2011-10-06T20:02:10Z")
Floridation \> Fluoridation How novel, a reduction in IQ? That’s one impossible thing before my breakfast. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/5 "2011-10-06T20:15:13Z")
I had to stop reading the article. I think that it was fluoridated, because the more I read, the lower my IQ got. Now me not think good. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/6 "2011-10-06T20:21:37Z")
> [@](#): > > “Fluoride is a toxic substance,” said tea party activist Tony Caso of Palm Harbor. “This is all part of an agenda that’s being pushed forth by the so-called globalists in our government and the world government to keep the people stupid so they don’t realize what’s going on.” > > He added: “This is the U.S. of A, not the Soviet Socialist Republic.” These people think there’s something wrong with our country, and they’re absolutely right - just not in the way they think they are. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/7 "2011-10-06T20:24:34Z")
So just out of random curiosity, did Soviet Russia fluoridate its water? (And the first person who responds with “Soviet Russia fluoridates you” is getting sent to the Gulag) ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/8 "2011-10-06T20:37:02Z")
> [@Simplicio](#): > > So just out of random curiosity, did Soviet Russia fluoridate its water? > **[Community water fluoridation in Leningrad and Moscow - PubMed](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3163958/)** > > A total of 47 water samples were obtained over a 3-yr period in the cities of Leningrad and Moscow in the USSR. All the samples had their fluoride content analyzed blindly outside the Soviet Union. A total of three samples had therapeutic levels of... Here is a Wiki article: [Opposition to water fluoridation - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy) The following nations previously fluoridated their water, but stopped the practice, with the years when water fluoridation started and stopped in parentheses: ``` Federal Republic of Germany (1952–1971) Sweden (1952–1971) Netherlands (1953–1976) Czechoslovakia (1955–1990) German Democratic Republic (1959–1990) Soviet Union (1960–1990) Finland (1959–1993) Japan (1952–1972) ``` ---
**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/9 "2011-10-06T20:39:31Z")
I wonder how many Nobel Prize winners grew up drinking fluoridated water?? ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/10 "2011-10-06T20:47:40Z")
Someone needs to warn them of the dangers of oxygen dihydride. That stuff can kill you, withdrawals are always fatal, and it’s commonly used in the manufacture of highly toxic chemicals. ---
**Author:** ![Terr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@Terr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terr)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/11 "2011-10-06T21:03:24Z")
So - to the posters who are laughing at the stupid tea-party people - are you also laughing at the stupid Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Finns and Japanese? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/12 "2011-10-06T21:05:50Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > So - to the posters who are laughing at the stupid tea-party people - are you also laughing at the stupid Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Finns and Japanese? If they stopped fluoridation because they think it’s a global conspiracy to keep the sheeple stupid, then yes, I’d laugh. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/13 "2011-10-06T21:27:46Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > So - to the posters who are laughing at the stupid tea-party people - are you also laughing at the stupid Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Finns and Japanese? When they laughed at the stupid Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Finns and Japanese I said nothing for I was not a stupid German, Swede, Dutch, Finn or Japanese… ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/14 "2011-10-06T21:33:32Z")
> [@Terr](#): > > So - to the posters who are laughing at the stupid tea-party people - are you also laughing at the stupid Germans, Swedes, Dutch, Finns and Japanese? No, I’ll continue laughing at U.S. idiots. > **[Water fluoridation | Effectiveness](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoridation#Effectiveness)** > > Reviews have shown that water fluoridation reduces cavities in children. A conclusion for the efficacy in adults is less clear with some reviews finding benefit and others not. Studies in the U.S. in the 1950s and 1960s showed that water fluoridation reduced childhood cavities by fifty to sixty percent, while studies in 1989 and 1990 showed lower reductions (40% and 18% respectively), likely due to increasing use of fluoride from other sources, notably toothpaste, and also the A 2000 UK systemati... > [@](#): > > Fluoridation may be useful in the U.S. because unlike most European countries, the U.S. does not have school-based dental care, many children do not visit a dentist regularly, and for many U.S. children water fluoridation is the prime source of exposure to fluoride. The effectiveness of water fluoridation can vary according to circumstances such as whether preventive dental care is free. > **[Water fluoridation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoridation#Use_around_the_world)** > > Water fluoridation is the controlled addition of fluoride to public water supplies to reduce tooth decay. Fluoridated water maintains fluoride levels effective for cavity prevention, achieved naturally or through supplementation. In the mouth, fluoride slows tooth enamel demineralization and enhances remineralization in early-stage cavities. Defluoridation is necessary when natural fluoride exceeds recommended limits. The World Health Organization (WHO) recommends fluoride levels of 0.5– Too... > [@](#): > > Communities have discontinued water fluoridation in some countries, including Finland, Germany, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Switzerland. This change was often motivated by political opposition to water fluoridation, but sometimes the need for water fluoridation was met by alternative strategies. The use of fluoride in its various forms is the foundation of tooth decay prevention throughout Europe; for example, France, Germany, and many other European countries use fluoridated salt. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/15 "2011-10-06T21:37:39Z")
Local dentists must be cheering this decision. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/16 "2011-10-06T21:46:38Z")
I heard there was a time when the Republican party exiled groups like the John Birch Society for their stupidity including the fluoride conspiracy. Now just a short time later they are stronger then ever and making policy on behalf of Republicans. ---
**Author:** ![Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dread_pirate_jimbo/32/3897_2.png) [@Dread\_Pirate\_Jimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dread_Pirate_Jimbo)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/17 "2011-10-06T22:16:15Z")
The morons in our municipal government eliminated fluoridation in our water last year against the strident objections of a number of dentists. Fortunately, our water still has about half the levels of fluoride it used to because our water supply from the nearby mountain glaciers naturally contains it. Apparently this naturally occuring fluoride is of no concern to the anti-fluoride lobby. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/18 "2011-10-06T22:37:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Communities have discontinued water fluoridation in some countries, including Finland, Germany, Japan, the Netherlands, Sweden, and Switzerland. This change was often motivated by political opposition to water fluoridation, but sometimes the need for water fluoridation was met by alternative strategies. The use of fluoride in its various forms is the foundation of tooth decay prevention throughout Europe; for example, France, Germany, and many other European countries use fluoridated salt. Ice cream, Mandrake, _children’s ice cream_! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/19 "2011-10-07T00:22:15Z")
Oh, Florida… ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816/20 "2011-10-07T00:29:00Z")
Well at least in the year 2040 that new forensics detective reality show, Bones 2040, will be able to solve a crime. They will be able to identify that the about 30 year old victim came from west Florida (due to her crappy teeth) and that, in conjunction with other clues, will lead to serial killers capture. Look on the bright side folks! In the future they will be saving lives! Won’t someone think of the serial killers victims? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluoridation-cancelled-in-west-florida/598816.md?page=2)