# Flutie's drop kick on net video?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 2, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023 "2006-01-02T01:44:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/1 "2006-01-02T01:44:36Z")

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Does anyone know any place on the 'net to get video of Doug Flutie’s drop-kick against Miami?

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**Author:** ![Rysdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7cd45c/32.png) [@Rysdad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysdad)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/2 "2006-01-02T02:16:49Z")

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I tried the Pat’s [official site](http://www.patriots.com/mediacenter/index.cfm?ac=nflfilmclips), but it said, due to blackout rules, it couldn’t show clips until all the games were finished.

Maybe try that one a little later?

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/3 "2006-01-02T17:43:31Z")

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Can anyone explain _why_ a drop kick was even attempted? Isn’t a regular field goal PAT much more reliable? Or, was it a bungled two-point conversion?

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/4 "2006-01-02T17:50:15Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> Can anyone explain _why_ a drop kick was even attempted? Isn’t a regular field goal PAT much more reliable? Or, was it a bungled two-point conversion?

It was done because it was unique, it hasn’t been done since 41 because it is a stupid play. The only reason Flutie did it was because he can. It was probably the last play of his football career and they wanted him to do something memorable. It was a meaningless game for the Pats so if he didn’t make it who cares.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2006, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/5 "2006-01-02T18:18:36Z")

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You can see it [here](http://www.nfl.com/video) if you click on the Pats/Dolphins highlights. It’s about 3/4ths of the way through. It’s not a great shot of it; it’s kind of distant.

Thank goodness for DirecTVs Sunday Ticket. I saw the kick live. 🆒

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/6 "2006-01-03T01:53:05Z")

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Can someone explain to me _what_ a drop kick is? Everyone is making a big deal out of it and I want to know why. Is it not done because it’s hard to do, or, as someone else said, just stupid?

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/7 "2006-01-03T01:56:54Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Can someone explain to me _what_ a drop kick is? Everyone is making a big deal out of it and I want to know why. Is it not done because it’s hard to do, or, as someone else said, just stupid?

[A short explanation of the drop kick, and why it isn’t done that often](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#American_Football)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/8 "2006-01-03T05:03:03Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> It was done because it was unique, it hasn’t been done since 41 because it is a stupid play.

Well, in the modern era, because of the shape of the ball, it’s a bit of a silly play.

It’s odd. I was joking to my brother during the Bears game yesterday afternoon that they should attempt a drop kick just since nobody’s done it in the longest time. And today I find out that Flutie did just that yesterday and made it. Weird.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/9 "2006-01-03T06:38:15Z")

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Very interesting. I’ve been an NFL fan forever, and I’d never heard of this play until yesterday (much like the “field goal from a tee” that the Titans tried last year).

I’ve always admired Flutie; glad to see him go out with something historic, even if not a Super Bowl.

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**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/10 "2006-01-03T07:04:43Z")

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Wow. Seems like I picked a good time to [ask this question!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=348124&highlight=dropkick)

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**Author:** ![blondebear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blondebear/32/1022_2.png) [@blondebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blondebear)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/11 "2006-01-03T16:39:08Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I’ve always admired Flutie; glad to see him go out with something historic, even if not a Super Bowl.

Well, the Pats ARE in the playoffs, so Doug still has a chance at getting a ring, don’t you think?

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**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/12 "2006-01-03T19:06:43Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> (much like the “field goal from a tee” that the Titans tried last year)

Field goal from a tee? How does that work?

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/13 "2006-01-03T19:28:10Z")

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> [@Wolfian](#):
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> Field goal from a tee? How does that work?

On the play immediately following a fair catch, you are allowed to do

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**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2006, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/14 "2006-01-03T19:31:30Z")

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Zoops, sorry.

On the play immediately following a fair catch, you are allowed to do a _fair catch kick_. Basically, this is a kickoff from the line of scrimmage, although I believe you’re allowed a choice of a kickoff, drop kick, or punt. If this kickoff goes through the uprights, it’s a field goal for 3 points. The Titans tried this against Houston last year, but the kick came up short.

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**Author:** ![Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ba8739/32.png) [@Backwater\_Under\_Duck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Backwater_Under_Duck)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/15 "2006-01-04T02:07:20Z")

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[Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life](http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiDROPKJES.html)  
End over end, neither left nor to right.  
Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights  
Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life.

_Words and music by Mr. Paul Craft._  
Big hit for Mr. Bobby Bare  
Cornyest country song ever.

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**Author:** ![LiveOnAPlane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3d9bf3/32.png) [@LiveOnAPlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LiveOnAPlane)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/16 "2006-01-04T02:28:24Z")

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> [@Backwater Under\_Duck](#):
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> [Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life](http://sniff.numachi.com/~rickheit/dtrad/pages/tiDROPKJES.html)  
> End over end, neither left nor to right.  
> Straight through the heart of them righteous uprights  
> Drop-kick me, Jesus, through the goalposts of life.
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> _Words and music by Mr. Paul Craft._  
> Big hit for Mr. Bobby Bare  
> Cornyest country song ever.

Yes, maybe so, but I have to say that “Does Your Chewing Gum Lose Its Flavor On The Bedpost Overnight?” has to be a good runner-up. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Number](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/number/32/242_2.png) [@Number](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Number)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2006, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/17 "2006-01-04T02:35:11Z")

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According to the NFL’s [Digest of Rules](http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/fairkick), no tee is allowed on a fair catch kick.

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**Author:** ![jackelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@jackelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jackelope)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/18 "2006-01-05T02:33:54Z")

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> [@Number](#):
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> According to the NFL’s [Digest of Rules](http://www.nfl.com/fans/rules/fairkick), no tee is allowed on a fair catch kick.

That’s weird. I confess I didn’t actually see the Titans’ fair catch kick attempt; all the sources I can find say a fair catch kick is a field goal attempt that’s done “like a kickoff.” The official NFL rules say “no tee,” but that’s the only reference I see to a tee either way.

So how do you kick something “like a kickoff,” but without a tee? Did the Titans use one? Or do you use a holder, as they do in NFL games when it’s too windy for the ball to stay on a tee?

Using a holder seems lame: that’s not “like a kickoff,” it’s “like a field goal.”

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/19 "2006-01-05T02:51:55Z")

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I believe they mean “like a kickoff” as in there is nobody trying to block the kick.

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**Author:** ![fiddlesticks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddlesticks/32/18129_2.png) [@fiddlesticks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fiddlesticks)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2006, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluties-drop-kick-on-net-video/338023/20 "2006-01-05T03:00:32Z")

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> [@jackelope](#):
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> Using a holder seems lame: that’s not “like a kickoff,” it’s “like a field goal.”

The key of why it’s like a kickoff is because the defense has to line up 10 yard away from the line of scrimmage, just like they do in a convential kickoff. So formation of the guys on the field is naturally set up like a kickoff on a windy day except the kicker doesn’t have the advantage of using a tee. You’d still have people spread out into “lanes” as on the kickoff as it would guard against the defense picking up a short kick and returning it the other way. Since there’s little chance in blocking a kick like this, unlike convential field goals kicked from 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage, setting up a return would be the main focus of the defensive players, I’d imagine.

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