# Fluttershy is obviously a Gangrel.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 11, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluttershy-is-obviously-a-gangrel/665917 "2013-08-11T03:38:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluttershy-is-obviously-a-gangrel/665917/21 "2013-08-16T15:18:34Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> I would challenge that statement. I know many boys ranging in age 3 - 12 who watch the show. I think the reason we believe it is for little girls is because the My Little Ponies we grew up with was for little girls.

I’ve read the plot summaries for G1 and I’m not even all that convinced that in concept G1 was all that girly. Sure, ponies and rainbows, but it seemed like a fairly bog standard high fantasy story.

I have no meaningful opinions on the quality of said show, however. Though I suspect it probably wasn’t that much worse than a lot of the boys shows back then. I think the marketing for the toys has affected the view of My Little Pony far more than the show itself ever did (well… except G3 ponies, which I’ve seen a few episodes of and that was absolutely terrible).

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluttershy-is-obviously-a-gangrel/665917/22 "2013-08-16T16:50:01Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> I’ve read the plot summaries for G1 and I’m not even all that convinced that in concept G1 was all that girly. Sure, ponies and rainbows, but it seemed like a fairly bog standard high fantasy story.

Er… which isn’t to imply girls can’t like fantasy, or even that fantasy is a boy thing. Just that the plot itself didn’t scream “deliberately trying to make this a girls only club” like, say, anything Barbie ever does.

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**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluttershy-is-obviously-a-gangrel/665917/23 "2013-08-16T17:57:55Z")

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> [@Jragon](#):
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> Though I suspect it probably wasn’t that much worse than a lot of the boys shows back then.

Despite the nostalgia with which some of them are now viewed, the boys’ shows were dire. That era was a cartoon wasteland. I think MLP mostly gets singled out because it has now has a tremendously successful and popular reboot to contrast the old dreck with, not because the old ones were really that much worse than other cartoons of the period.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2013, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fluttershy-is-obviously-a-gangrel/665917/24 "2013-08-16T18:04:38Z")

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> [@Balance](#):
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> Despite the nostalgia with which some of them are now viewed, the boys’ shows were dire. That era was a cartoon wasteland. I think MLP mostly gets singled out because it has now has a tremendously successful and popular reboot to contrast the old dreck with, not because the old ones were really that much worse than other cartoons of the period.

Yeah, that’s what I was getting at. In my opinion, Transformers G1 and He-Man aren’t really that great of shows, in retrospect. They’re **okay** , I guess, if I’m generous. But they’re not something I’d go out of my way to watch. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I’ll at least give a little credit to, though it got completely and unrepentantly silly. While there were a couple of '80s cartoons that were good, I don’t think we really got much good animation until the '90s. Even then it was generally “above average” more than “great” (and still mostly dreck). Barring a couple odd standouts like Batman TAS.

Gummi Bears was still an amazing show, though. I don’t care what anyone says. (Disclaimer: I have not seen a second of Gummi Bears for probably well over 10 years and I prefer to keep it that way)

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