# Flyer pings the bigot radar. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 17, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725 "2017-12-17T18:37:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/101 "2017-12-18T19:56:25Z")
I don’t think you’re allowed to use the words “science” and “evidence” any more, although that may only be if you work for the gubbermint. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/102 "2017-12-18T21:58:51Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I’m straight, and I sucked a dick after reading this just for you. It doesn’t count if it’s your own. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/103 "2017-12-19T03:40:07Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > I don’t think you’re allowed to use the words “science” and “evidence” any more, although that may only be if you work for the gubbermint. They have to say those words if they gunna pray agin 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/104 "2017-12-19T03:58:59Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > They have to say those words if they gunna pray agin 'em. “bad thought” is sufficient. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/105 "2017-12-19T04:13:26Z")
I’d actually never really paid any attention to him before. I’d seen him post in a few other threads, but I admit that he floated in under my radar. I honestly thought that this was performance art being done very badly. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2017, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/106 "2017-12-19T16:42:03Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > I’m going to regret asking this, but which conspiracy theories? Someone mentioned something about Chem Trails. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/107 "2018-12-30T13:06:16Z")
Never much on my own radar beyond a vague awareness of occasional angry/stupid comments. But I noticed that he seems to be ramping up the supercilious jerkishness on even the most mundane of GQ-type topics recently. So out of interest I checked the Pit, and discovered this interesting read. Apparently even if he got the personality transplant that so desperately needs, that might not go far to fix Flyer’s intellectual shortcomings, nor his bigotry & self-righteous hypocrisy. The underage porn thing came out of left field, I’m not sure what to make of that. What would Jesus do? According to Flyer, it seems Jesus would split his time between hating fags and jacking off to Ron Jeremy abusing 16-year-olds. What a foul embarrassment for humanity. To conclude on a more wholesome and entertaining note than Flyer’s personality, however: > [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > I’m straight, and I sucked a dick after reading this just for you. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/108 "2018-12-30T14:52:35Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > [“Other than the child porn, in what way is he a creep?”](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18613489) Click links to see that the reference is to: > [@http://m.tmz.com/#Article/2015/08/01/jared-fogle-sex-minor-fbi-text-messages-subway-investigation](#): > > According to the report, in 2008 Jared wanted the woman to advertise herself on Craigslist to have sex with other men so he could watch. He allegedly said he’d pay $500 per encounter. Business Insider says the woman responded, “Is this the same website you found that 16-year-old girl that you f\*\*\*\*\*? I still can’t believe you only paid $100 to her.” > > The report says Jared responded, “It was amazing!!!” Since 16 was the age of legal consent in that state, Jared Fogle was not charged with a crime. But does **Flyer** believe that “prosecutors declined to press charges” and “not a creep” are synonyms? That view would be quite opposite to his Biblical blather quoted upthread. ---
**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/109 "2018-12-30T16:48:45Z")
I’m glad for this thread. Flyer started pinging my radar in the last few months (didn’t remember him before that time) and I wondered if it was just me being too sensitive. Nope - he really is awful. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/110 "2018-12-30T17:51:40Z")
WTF’s up with [post #78?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20672405&postcount=78) Holy fuck. **Flyer** - dude - are you for fucking real? I couldn’t even click on those links. Feel like I could use a good shower now. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/111 "2018-12-30T17:53:26Z")
[https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21402785](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21402785) Post 14. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t nderstand what this place _is_. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/112 "2018-12-30T18:25:38Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21402785](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=21402785) Post 14. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t nderstand what this place _is_. A well-deserved warning. **Flyer** , bubbeleh, it’s not your political positions. It’s 'cause you’re a _jerk_. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/113 "2018-12-30T18:51:04Z")
Yeah, you’re not even in the top ten whipping boys. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/114 "2018-12-30T19:00:50Z")
Here’s a summary of some of Flyer’s views on morality & sexuality. First some relatively mainstream homophobic bigotry, on the slippery slope of granting any rights at all to gay people: [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20671089](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20671089) Here Flyer explains that MAGA means returning to the moral golden age of the 1950’s, when most of us were good Christians and _conflation_ of church and state was a virtue. A time when extramarital sex was shameful and the LGBT perverts knew their place in the shadows; when women did not “go half naked in public” but dressed demurely in skirts and dresses “instead of cross-dressing”. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20438196](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20438196) In another account of our moral decay, he conflates women’s dress choices, such as daring to wear a t-shirt & shorts in public, with “showing simulations of sex in popular entertainment”. He feels that women, when making an immodest choice to show their legs, _deserve_ boorish reactions from men. > **[High school senior pulls yearbook photo prank. Are the charges excessive?](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19306994)** > > I keep seeing this “prudish, puritanical” complaint on this board about society, and I keep wondering where it’s coming from, and I wonder if the people making the complaint have bothered to actually notice what’s going on around them. A society... [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20049804](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20049804) He shows particular and recurrent concern that _teenage_ girls dress like sluts, posting several images (links now defunct) to support his point. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20273625](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20273625) > **[So... there's no rebellious counterculture for the younger generation this...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17668991)** > > OP, some of that you’re right on. But I don’t see how you came up with the one about “modesty being back in vogue.” Teenage girls seem to think that it’s their God-given right to parade around wearing shorts that are SO short, that they are... He starts a thread to state his belief that porn featuring 16-year-olds should be legal; to express concern for people _accidentally_ caught with child porn imagery; and to assert that only “actual predators” should be considered sex offenders. (I don’t think that all the views he expresses in this OP are wrong _per se_; but they seem sinister in the context of his broader misogynistic and bigoted worldview.) > **[Reforming child porn laws](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=767081)** > > I don’t think that we’ll see common sense applied to this area any time soon, based on current conditions (arresting minors who take naked pictures of themselves, etc). I propose the following: Anything that is completely animated should be... In a thread about the Jared/Subway scandal, he makes a post - apparently unironic - consisting of the following comment: > [@](#): > > Other than the child porn, in what way is he a creep? > **[Jared from Subway Pleads to Child Porn Charges](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18613489)** > > Other than the child porn, in what way is he a creep? Replying top a comment/thread specifically about child molesters, he says explicitly that “childhood innocence is a modern invention”. I can see no possible way to interpret this other than an assertion that child victims of molestation are not innocent, but are are complicit in their own abuse. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19455737](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19455737) In a non-sexual context, he further elaborates his views on the criminal responsibility of young children. He asserts that a 12-year-old should have been executed for murder. [https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19341091](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19341091) ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/115 "2018-12-30T19:23:30Z")
ETA: I tried above to fairly summarize his stated views (it’s hardly necessary to exaggerate them), but on rereading the last thread I now realize that he was not asserting that a child should have been executed at the age of 12; although she was still only 13 when convicted. Of further relevance, I note that he linked to what appears to be an MRA website for the story of Jasmine Richardson (I won’t link to it again, here’s [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_family_murders)). Her alleged actions per that MRA website included (as a 12-year-old child) seducing her 23-year-old boyfriend to induce him to commit murder. Direct quote from the site he linked to: > [@](#): > > Pussy power at 12? You betcha. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/116 "2018-12-30T19:26:51Z")
[Fixed your link.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_family_murders) ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/117 "2018-12-30T21:45:45Z")
It’s strange to see so many terrible qualities in a single poster. Bigot? Check. Religious fanatic? Check. Apparent pedophilic tendencies? Check. What a scumbag. And one of the least self-aware posters on this board. I have little doubt that he truly believes that he’s a person of very high character, and the rest of us are all moral scum. ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/118 "2018-12-30T21:57:43Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > A-ha - the Old Testament one. It’s like that old Bewitched show: the character changed dramatically between seasons. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/119 "2018-12-30T22:04:35Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > It’s strange to see so many terrible qualities in a single poster. Bigot? Check. Religious fanatic? Check. Apparent pedophilic tendencies? Check. What a scumbag. And one of the least self-aware posters on this board. I have little doubt that he truly believes that he’s a person of very high character, and the rest of us are all moral scum. Oh, he’s far from the worst poster we’ve had. That’s the scary thing. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2018, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725/120 "2018-12-30T22:19:42Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh, he’s far from the worst poster we’ve had. That’s the scary thing. He’s still pretty fucking bad, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flyer-pings-the-bigot-radar/804725.md?page=7)