# Flying on 8/13 Question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [August 11, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288 "2006-08-11T15:35:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![MannyL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@MannyL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MannyL)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/1 "2006-08-11T15:35:38Z")

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My father will be flying from EWR to Las Vegas. He called the airline and was trold he can bring as carry on a dvd or cd player. I’ve heard reports however that even on domestic flights they won’t be allowed.

Can someone tell me as of right now arethe reports I’ve heard wrong and what the airline told him correct?

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**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/2 "2006-08-11T16:19:14Z")

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The airline is correct, for the moment anyway. Here is the current restriction for domestic US travel:

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> In order to address the higher risk, the Department of Homeland Security has implemented the following new security measures until further notice.
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> No liquids or gels are permitted to enter the sterile area through the screening checkpoint or be in accessible property or on one’s person except:
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> Baby formula or breast milk if a baby or small child is traveling  
> Prescription medicine with a name that matches the passenger’s ticket  
> Insulin and essential other non-prescription medicines
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> Examples of liquids and gels included in these security measures include:
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> Beverages  
> Shampoo  
> Suntan Lotion  
> Creams  
> Toothpaste  
> Hair Gel  
> Other items of similar consistency
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> Also, you will not be allowed to bring any liquids or gels purchased after passing through the security checkpoint onboard the aircraft. Any beverages you purchase in the airport will have to be consumed before you board.

Now, things are a _lot_ stricter if you are travelling to or from the UK, but from EWR to LAS there are no restrictions beyond the one on liquids at the moment.

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/3 "2006-08-11T17:19:31Z")

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[TSA FAQ on the subject](http://tsa-7.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/tsa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=254&p_created=1155227254&p_sid=Ym7_YPei&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPSZwX3NvcnRfYnk9JnBfZ3JpZHNvcnQ9JnBfcm93X2NudD0xNiZwX3Byb2RzPSZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0x&p_li=&p_topview=1)

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**Author:** ![Rick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9f8e36/32.png) [@Rick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/4 "2006-08-11T17:41:02Z")

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Forgot to include the answer:

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> TSA continues to allow laptop computers, cell phones and other electronic items.

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**Author:** ![arseNal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@arseNal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arseNal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/5 "2006-08-11T19:37:28Z")

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What’s to keep someone from just keeping a small bottle of something in their pocket, I wonder?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/6 "2006-08-11T20:13:33Z")

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[QUOTE=arseNal]  
What’s to keep someone from just keeping a small bottle of something in their pocket, I wonder?  
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They ask you to empty all pockets before you go through the metal dector. They may pat you down, not sure, I’m not flying again until early Sep.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/7 "2006-08-11T20:24:07Z")

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In the UK, I’ve read they’re searching pockets/doing multiple pat-downs. Their guidelines are very explicit, and say “no carrying things.”

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/8 "2006-08-11T20:33:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Telemark]  
They ask you to empty all pockets before you go through the metal dector. They may pat you down, not sure, I’m not flying again until early Sep.  
[/QUOTE]  
What would stop a dedicated terrorist who fake catheter bag or a fake colostomy bag containing explosive from getting on an airplane?

Heck, a real _dedicated_ terrorist could even have a terrorist doctor actually do the surgery to install a colostomy bag.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/9 "2006-08-11T21:59:32Z")

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[QUOTE=t-bonham@scc.net]  
What would stop a dedicated terrorist who fake catheter bag or a fake colostomy bag containing explosive from getting on an airplane?

Heck, a real _dedicated_ terrorist could even have a terrorist doctor actually do the surgery to install a colostomy bag.  
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Medicine is allowed, and presumably any medical devices. But there’s no reason to bring a _full_ colostomy bag; they could just have you empty it before going through security.

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**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/10 "2006-08-11T22:11:00Z")

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_Must… resist… temptation…_

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> they could just have you empty it before going through security.

As long as they dob’t make me taste it.

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**Author:** ![antechinus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/fbc32d/32.png) [@antechinus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/antechinus)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2006, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/11 "2006-08-11T22:29:39Z")

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[QUOTE=t-bonham@scc.net]  
What would stop a dedicated terrorist who fake catheter bag or a fake colostomy bag containing explosive from getting on an airplane?

Heck, a real _dedicated_ terrorist could even have a terrorist doctor actually do the surgery to install a colostomy bag.  
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Or ‘saline’ breast implants.

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**Author:** ![King\_Friday](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/43a26b/32.png) [@King\_Friday](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/King_Friday)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2006, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/flying-on-8-13-question/368288/12 "2006-08-12T00:07:47Z")

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Put this in your memory bank for future knowledge. There _will_ eventually be a terrorist attack using a General Aviation aircraft. Anyone can charter one for the right price and load anything they want on it, no questions asked. Now a Gulfstream might not cause the mass destruction of a 767, but it can make a mess.
