# Folks who voted for Trump, then Biden, then Trump again. Why?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [November 12, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142 "2024-11-12T11:50:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/1 "2024-11-12T11:50:52Z")

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This is just a rule of thumb:  
45% of the electorate will almost always vote for the Democrats.  
45% of the electorate will almost always vote for the Republicans.

Which leaves the 10% of swing voters.

I don’t know what the number is, but there must be a countable amount of voters who voted for Trump in 2016, Biden in 2020, and then Trump again in 2024.

Those are the people I’m interested in hearing from.  
Do they feel like they made a mistake in 2020? What swung them away from Trump and then back to Trump? This is not the same as just staying home. Some people had to of swung back and forth. I’m curious as to why.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/2 "2024-11-12T12:08:01Z")

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Knuckle-dragging Neanderthal:  
“COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF….MUST….HAVE….PENIS!”

(You knew someone would say this in the first reply post. Now that that’s out of the way, let’s hope someone chimes in who actually voted Trump-Biden-Trump).

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/3 "2024-11-12T12:10:15Z")

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This popped up on my Twitter feed today, a case of a true swing voter!

> <https://x.com/armanddoma/status/1855982142959800334?s=46&t=00I33sCV6jHG5B8vQKN5Ig>

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**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/4 "2024-11-12T12:13:36Z")

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People vote on two things. ONE: their situation. Even the ones slightly above “low information” with their evaluation of the candidates. Many people, younger voters, had never been in much any inflation. we had a pandemic but they think Biden “caused” the inflation with his woke spending. Not the bridges one, all the others.  
TWO: it their personal situation is the same, they vote on gut feel for the candidate. Not issues. Biden was losing by the debate. That had an effect. Kamala spoke on issues such as abortion. Not of much use to young males. The young males and all the women married to MAGA went for Trump.

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/5 "2024-11-12T12:20:58Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Knuckle-dragging Neanderthal:  
> “COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF….MUST….HAVE….PENIS!”

That doesn’t explain Hillary Clinton winning the popular vte in 2016.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/6 "2024-11-12T12:29:31Z")

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> [@pkbites](#):
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> That doesn’t explain Hillary Clinton winning the popular vte in 2016.

I went Clinton-Biden-Trump, but the OP seems written to exclude me.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/7 "2024-11-12T12:54:36Z")

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Out of idle curiosity, what was your thinking in voting this time for Trump?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/8 "2024-11-12T13:08:03Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Out of idle curiosity, what was your thinking in voting this time for Trump?

I asked myself which candidate would be more likely to support the Palestinians rather than giving Israel a free hand against them — and to support illegal aliens, rather than giving the United States a free hand against them — and then I voted the other way.

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**Author:** ![mozchron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mozchron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mozchron)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/9 "2024-11-12T13:09:08Z")

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Deleted i think i misunderstood the post.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/10 "2024-11-12T14:03:42Z")

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And the Ukrainians. Don’t forget to exterminate the Ukrainians.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/11 "2024-11-12T16:06:35Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> And the Ukrainians. Don’t forget to exterminate the Ukrainians.

If Trump had been right about that one as well, I’d have had an even easier decision; instead, AFAICT he’s right about two and wrong on one, and Harris was wrong about two and right on one — and I sure wish I’d had the option of voting for someone who agrees with me on everything, but, well, it wasn’t to be.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/12 "2024-11-12T16:11:25Z")

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I’ll never understand why people think Harris supported illegal immigration.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/13 "2024-11-12T16:22:37Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’ll never understand why people think Harris supported illegal immigration.

AFAICT, she’s said a number of things on the subject, ranging from ‘being in favor of decriminalizing illegal border crossings’ to ‘creating a pathway to citizenship for people who are here illegally.’ So, worst-case scenario strikes me as entirely too much support, and best-case scenario strikes me as — uh, entirely too much support.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/14 "2024-11-13T11:13:24Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> ‘creating a pathway to citizenship for people who are here illegally.’

This is the exact opposite of “supporting illegal immigration.” To NOT do this, is to support the continued illegal status of several million people.

(Unless you support mass deportations.)

End of hijack – continue in some pit thread, if you’d like (I don’t have time right now).

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/15 "2024-11-13T14:57:46Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> > ‘creating a pathway to citizenship for people who are here illegally.’
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> This is the exact opposite of “supporting illegal immigration.”

I don’t see that it is. Rewarding illegal immigration with legal status IS supporting illegal immigration.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/16 "2024-11-13T16:03:52Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I’ll never understand why people think Harris supported illegal immigration.

Because with her wealth of power and control over the government as **Vice** -President, she did nothing to stop it.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2024, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/folks-who-voted-for-trump-then-biden-then-trump-again-why/1010142/17 "2024-11-13T16:08:30Z")

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I’m still not convinced that “it” was anywhere near a crisis. Maybe an “issue.” Probably not even a “problem.” Geeze, someone eats a few dogs and cats, and the electorate goes nuts.
