# Follow the Money: Westboro Baptist Church Income? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [March 3, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349 "2011-03-03T15:01:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Romeo\_and\_Whatsherface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@Romeo\_and\_Whatsherface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Romeo_and_Whatsherface)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/41 "2011-03-05T06:04:44Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits the state of Kansas from firing them because of their religious affiliation. And you know if they got canned for any reason, they’d file a wrongful discharge suit. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![thelabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@thelabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelabdude)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/42 "2011-03-05T15:39:48Z")
State employees do get fired for offensive speech, [http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-24-cox-fired\_N.htm](http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2011-02-24-cox-fired_N.htm) In Indiana recently as assistant attorney general was fired for saying the police should use live ammunition to clear the Wisconsin capital. You hear of such from time to time. Civil service employees may be different. With all their success in their personal cases, is there a chance they are using state resources for personal needs? ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/43 "2011-03-07T03:56:53Z")
> [@Lord\_Feldon](#): > > Title VII of the Civil Rights Act prohibits the state of Kansas from firing them because of their religious affiliation. So an open KKK member can be a state employee in Kansas? Curious. ---
**Author:** ![Shmendrik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee7513/32.png) [@Shmendrik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shmendrik)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/44 "2011-03-07T04:05:18Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > So an open KKK member can be a state employee in Kansas? > > Curious. KKK is not a religious affiliation, and the issue is not unique to Kansas. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/45 "2011-03-07T04:26:33Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > I’m guessing that since the WBC website completely disappeared, that it was because WBC shut it down. I also think that because Anon usually releases internal emails and none were released in this case, that this is further proof that this was a WBC hoax. Anon may release emails if it obtains access to them but it wouldn’t necessarily do so just as part of an attack on a website. ---
**Author:** ![sweintz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@sweintz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweintz)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/46 "2011-09-04T21:54:34Z")
> [@dhkendall](#): > > I’m wondering why it is OK for the losers in a case against a hate group to give money to the hate group? Isn’t funding a hate group a crime in the US? If I gave money to the KKK I’m sure I’d be subjected to a nice friendly chat by federal authorities (assume, for the purposes of this post that I’m American (which I’m not)). But if I was on the losing end of a case against the KKK, I’d be ordered to give money to them?? > > How in blazes does this work??? No, of course funding a hate group is not illegal in the US!!! In fact, hate groups are somewhat protected under the constitution, free speech clause of first amendment. ---
**Author:** ![sweintz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@sweintz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweintz)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/47 "2011-09-04T21:59:34Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > CHECK YOU FEDERAL RULE OF CIVIL PROCEDURE 54 > > In the American system, each party is normally responsible for paying its own _attorneys’ fees_, regardless of whether they prevail in the suit. > > However, in federal court, under Fed. R. Civ. P. 54(d)(1), “nless a federal statute, these rules, or a court order provides otherwise, _costs_ — other than attorney’s fees — should be allowed to the prevailing party” (emphasis added). Costs are defined at 28 U.S.C. § 1920, and include “fees of the clerk and marshal; fees for printed or electronically recorded transcripts necessarily obtained for use in the case; fees and disbursements for printing and witnesses; fees for exemplification and the costs of making copies of any materials where the copies are necessarily obtained for use in the case; docket fees under section 1923 of this title; compensation of court appointed experts, compensation of interpreters, and salaries, fees, expenses, and costs of special interpretation services under section 1828 of this title.” The Civil Rights Attorney’s Fees Award Act of 1976 makes it so that the attorneys fees ARE paid if the side bringing the suit prevails. Figure they can probably get away with billing that at 300 an hour. Now imagine how much time they can claim preparing to be heard before the SCOTUS… could be quite a tidy sum. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/48 "2011-09-05T18:50:36Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > So an open KKK member can be a state employee in Kansas? > > Curious. I imagine that any US citizen who chooses to affiliate with a group that does not appeal to you may have the same rights to employment as you would, were you to be a member of a group that has no appeal to that citizen. hh ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/49 "2011-09-06T01:45:32Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > … I don’t have a cite on that, but I’ve read it so many times on so many forums that I accept it. And _what_ exactly have we been doing here since 1973? [glances at page header] ---
**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/50 "2011-09-06T04:31:15Z")
Clearly the WBC is supported by donations from zombies. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/51 "2011-09-06T07:15:01Z")
WBC=zombies ---
**Author:** ![Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a9a28c/32.png) [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/52 "2011-09-09T04:44:24Z")
Apparently those assholes were protesting another military funeral near me a few days ago. The TV station reporting that had the good sense not to show them or mention their name. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/follow-the-money-westboro-baptist-church-income/573349/53 "2011-09-09T16:13:53Z")
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