# Following the second wave (or not) in the US as the States open up

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
**Tags:** covid-quarantine\
**Created:** [May 20, 2020, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/following-the-second-wave-or-not-in-the-us-as-the-states-open-up/854191 "2020-05-20T16:12:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2020, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/following-the-second-wave-or-not-in-the-us-as-the-states-open-up/854191/323 "2020-07-19T18:38:20Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Since they are not doing much to alter behaviors, then the rise will likely keep going past that, to who knows where?

FYI here’s a full quote of my post in the Covidiot thread on what at least our local county is trying to do to alter behaviors. This is only a couple days old but we shall see when/how much it pays off.

> [@Share your Covidiot stories](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/share-your-covidiot-stories/852854/236):
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> > **County Efforts to Stem the Tide**
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> > Here in Broward County (think Fort Lauderdale, Florida) the county executive has just upped the ante on confronting the non-compliant via [Executive Order 20-22 (pdf)](https://www.broward.org/CoronaVirus/Documents/EmergencyOrder20-22.pdf) which in turn builds on a growing list of other longer orders.
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> > This latest comes a couple weeks after “masks mandatory” signs were required by law at all doors to all commercial / retail & government buildings.
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> > It is now illegal for any business to serve a non-mask wearing customer. Waitstaff may not take their orders, nor may cashiers check out their purchases.
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> > The business manager on duty and the business owner are personally civilly & criminally liable for any failure to comply with the order to not serve maskless customers. Businesses that are found not in compliance twice may be closed, first for a day and then for longer. There have already been many one-day closures.
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> > Private parties in homes exceeding 10 persons are also prohibited, with the home owner personally civilly & criminally liable for any failure to enforce the rule. Whether the owner is present or not.
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> > The County may be stretching their authority a bit here, but they’re issuing one heck of a lot of citations right now. The public is actively encouraged to report either maskholes or businesses flouting the rules by calling 311 or 911 depending on how severe the violations are.
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> > Oh yeah, and a full-bore curfew from 11pm to 5am for anyone other than police / fire / EMS or people going to/from work or medical care. Late night parties are right out.

What I observe locally even before this latest order is only a few maskholes in stores. But I do see almost universal thinking that outdoors = 100% safe regardless of density or duration. In a region totally dedicated to year round outdoor recreation in groups that’s not really very safe.

Our other big gotcha is restaurants, both indoor and outdoor. Humans of course have to demask to eat; bad design if you ask me. But folks seem to think that means no masks once past the door for the entire duration of their stay. Not really.

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