# Followup: Is the north side never the baddest part of town?

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**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [August 20, 2001, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073 "2001-08-20T01:33:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Louie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c68b51/32.png) [@Louie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Louie)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2001, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/21 "2001-08-23T00:19:23Z")

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In my small town of Visalia, CA, the town is seperated by Highway 198 running east and west, which splits it up in north and south sections. The town originally started in the north section and grew southward. Now, most of the crime that happens in Visalia usually occurs in the north section of town.

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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/22 "2001-08-27T03:03:15Z")

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I had problems with the survey itself. As I pointed out the SOUTH side of Chicago is NOT the baddest part of town. The WEST side is much worse.

I was told probably but most people associate it with the south.

So you have a survey that isn’t doing what it should.

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/23 "2001-08-27T07:12:05Z")

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The north side of Oslo isn’t really the “baddest” part of town, but what’s called the north (it’s really the northeast) is where a lot of planned suburbs were built in the '50s and '60s. As was the case with many other European cities, these suburbs never became the utopia they were intended to be; instead they led to boredom, isolation, vandalism and youth gangs and have nearly all had their turn as “the baddest part of town”.

However, the traditional division of Oslo is east/west along Akerselva (a river). The west side, predictably, is the fashionable side. I think there’s a European agreement about that.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/24 "2001-08-27T20:15:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gorewonfla \*  
> **Dublin, Ireland. The River Liffey divides the city in two, and the North side is notoriously bad.**

“Notoriously bad”? I live on the Northside. Yes, it’s (generally) worse than the Southside. But we’re not talking Bed-Stuy here.

North Belfast is also worse than South Belfast, BTW.

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**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_eeees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/df705f/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_eeees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_eeees)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2001, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/25 "2001-08-27T22:12:17Z")

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In Milwaukee, the bad “side” of town is the north side (seems to me there’s just a pocket or two).

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**Author:** ![irishgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@irishgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/irishgirl)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2001, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/followup-is-the-north-side-never-the-baddest-part-of-town/77073/26 "2001-08-28T00:37:15Z")

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oh yeah baby! north belfast!!  
antrim, shankill, falls, limestone and crumlin roads

all infamous blackspots during the troubles, and not too hot at the moment either.

north dublin’s ok ( well, maybe not ballymun, or up near croke park) but hey, i live in D4…southside as you can get.

maybe it’s ireland’s perversity about these things

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