# Fonts with cedillas? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [April 28, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541 "2005-04-28T13:22:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/1 "2005-04-28T13:22:43Z")
For silibant “c” words like facade, Circe, Cyrano, etcetera. Bonus points if the fonts look passibly 19th centur. ---
**Author:** ![missbunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@missbunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/missbunny)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/2 "2005-04-28T13:31:42Z")
You can make a cedilla in most fonts by typing alt-0231 (use the numbers on the keypad, not on the top row). ç ---
**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/3 "2005-04-28T13:33:30Z")
Yes, or even alt-135 … ç … ? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/4 "2005-04-28T13:38:05Z")
Not sure exactly what you mean by 19 century, as there was diversity of style back then too. How about [Hancock](http://simplythebest.net/fonts/fonts/hancock.html) - I used this attractive script font one a fair bit for a Victorian-themed event a while back. ALT-0199 for Ç and ALT-0231 for ç ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/5 "2005-04-28T13:38:13Z")
I can never remember the Alt-keystrokes. Are there NO other alternatives? ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/6 "2005-04-28T13:59:25Z")
**Askia** , it has nothing to do with the _font_. The c cedilla is a particular character. If you have a French keyboard, for example, then it can be typed directly from the keyboard. But I’m assuming that you’re like the vast majority of us English speakers and have a keyboard without that key. So, your choices are: 1. Type the ALT+0231 (ç) or ALT+0199(Ç). 2. Run charmap, select the character, copy and paste. 3. Enter your posts from Word (or whatever) that support special keyboard shortcuts. In my copy of Word (which I have not altered), you type CTRL+comma then c and it produces the character ç. ---
**Author:** ![JHW3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@JHW3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JHW3)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/7 "2005-04-28T14:17:25Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > I can never remember the Alt-keystrokes. Are there NO other alternatives? In Microsoft Word you can type (if I remember correctly) Control-, (control and the comma key at once) followed by ‘c’ to get a c with a cedilla. Works for accents too – control-’ (apostrophe) followed by e gives e with an acute accent. Only works in MS Word as far as I know. ---
**Author:** ![Arwin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/51bf81/32.png) [@Arwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arwin)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/8 "2005-04-28T14:40:13Z")
> [@Askia](#): > > I can never remember the Alt-keystrokes. Are there NO other alternatives? Yes, there are. In Word you can go to Insert - Symbol, and pick the character you need from grids. Another elegant solution, particularly if you need the special signs often, is to switch your keyboard settings to English (International). This will make Windows react differently to special characters. If you now type ’ and then a c, you’ll get ç. Same for é (’+e), è (`+e), ü (" + u) and so on. To set this up (in Windows 2000): go to start - settings - control panel - keyboard - input locales now you can choose to either add a new one to which you can switch, or change your existing, etc. say that you change your existing, choose properties and then select United States - International from the list. ---
**Author:** ![Podkayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Podkayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Podkayne)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/9 "2005-04-28T14:43:39Z")
On a Mac, it’s option-c. Shift-option-c for uppercase (shockingly enough). ---
**Author:** ![Balthisar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/balthisar/32/2825_2.png) [@Balthisar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balthisar)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/10 "2005-04-28T14:45:30Z")
Assuming you’re on Windows because of the sheer complexity you’re having 🙂 : Turn on International English keyboard. Then Ç and ç are as easy as apostrophe-C or -c. ---
**Author:** ![Roches](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc8723/32.png) [@Roches](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roches)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/11 "2005-04-28T15:06:43Z")
The US international keyboard can be useful, but it has one drawback; you’ll get accented characters when you try to type apostrophes or quotation marks unless you press space after. Using a cedilla in _façade_ is acceptable since the original French word has one. I’m not sure why you’d want to put one in _Circe_, which is Greek, or _Cyrano_; that one’s French, but capital letters in French are usually not accented. _Et cetera_ was borrowed directly from Latin (to the extent that it was often italicized, and a Victorian author would probably put it in italics), and it was pronounced in Latin with a hard _c_. The cedilla in English is generally used only for words borrowed from French which include the accent, and even then not always. A Victorian author might well have written _façade_ or _soupçon_ in italics with an accent (but certainly not _et cetera_, since many Victorian authors would’ve known Latin); either that, or the printer would’ve done it for them, if possible. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fonts-with-cedillas/301541/12 "2005-04-28T15:12:00Z")
**Askia** Yes you could use the Windows character map but there’s a webpage at my site that lists the “ALT characters” with their associated numbers: [www.1728.com/altchar.htm](http://www.1728.com/altchar.htm) I find this easier to use than the Windows character map but the choice is up to you.