# Food Fadists - STFU

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037 "2012-06-23T05:33:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/41 "2012-06-23T17:39:00Z")

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> [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#):
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> Hell, I’ve only taken care of a neighbors chickens for a while, and my impression is that chickens are about the second dumbest things on earth, and wouldn’t even know if they’re happy or not. I think that they can understand “distressed” and “not distressed”, and that’s about it.
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> First dumbest thing is, of course, domestic turkeys (same neighbor). Damn, you hear about “dumb as a box of rocks”, well, domestic turkeys are DUMBER than that.

[Slight hijack] I raised heritage turkeys one year for Thanksgiving and one year only. What a giant pain in the ass. Wouldn’t stay behind the poultry fencing once they were able to fly. Had to be rounded up nightly as they roamed everywhere. My husband left the doors to the house open one cool afternoon and found 8 staring at him when he woke up from a nap. Can you even imagine how much shit 8 turkeys can leave on the floor?  
And as soon as the testosterone kicked in, the males started stalking anything female. Including me and any woman that came over to visit. You know those little handprints that you made in the 1st grade at Thanksgiving of preening turkeys? Well, when the boys spread their feathers like that, they’re actually saying “Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me.” [/slight hijack over]

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/42 "2012-06-23T17:43:46Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Almost no one gets HIV infections from blood transfusions anymore. Obviously the precautions we take to screen blood units for HIV are far out of proportion to the actual problem and we should stop wasting money doing it.

What was the rate of death from peanut allergies before all the precautions were taken?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/43 "2012-06-23T17:51:23Z")

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> [@fumster](#):
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> What was the rate of death from peanut allergies before all the precautions were taken?

Dunno. I don’t really have an opinion on peanut allergies one way or another. I just see arguments like **Monkey’s** a lot, and it annoys me since they’re so obviously logically flawed (and somewhat dangerous if someone takes them seriously). A precaution against X may be needless, but its silly to take the fact that X doesn’t happen much while the precaution is in place as evidence that the precaution is a waste of resources.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/44 "2012-06-23T17:53:55Z")

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It would also appear MSG allergies are no longer in vogue.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/45 "2012-06-23T17:55:18Z")

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> [@jlzania](#):
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> [Slight hijack] I raised heritage turkeys one year for Thanksgiving and one year only. What a giant pain in the ass. Wouldn’t stay behind the poultry fencing once they were able to fly. Had to be rounded up nightly as they roamed everywhere. My husband left the doors to the house open one cool afternoon and found 8 staring at him when he woke up from a nap. Can you even imagine how much shit 8 turkeys can leave on the floor?  
> And as soon as the testosterone kicked in, the males started stalking anything female. Including me and any woman that came over to visit. You know those little handprints that you made in the 1st grade at Thanksgiving of preening turkeys? Well, when the boys spread their feathers like that, they’re actually saying “Fuck me, fuck me, fuck me.” [/slight hijack over]

I’m genuinely curious, how did they know you’re female? I mean you’re a mammal! All the avian female things don’t apply to you.

Do they imprint on whatever raises them as female?

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/46 "2012-06-23T17:55:25Z")

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Of course the Mayo Clinic is on on the conspiracy. Hellman’s knows that without bread for the sandwich or a glass of milk to wash it down that they’ll be out of business.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/47 "2012-06-23T18:01:50Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Dunno. I don’t really have an opinion on peanut allergies one way or another. I just see arguments like **Monkey’s** a lot, and it annoys me since they’re so obviously logically flawed (and somewhat dangerous if someone takes them seriously). A precaution against X may be needless, but its silly to take the fact that X doesn’t happen much while the precaution is in place as evidence that the precaution is a waste of resources.

Yeah - that’s essentially the argument of the anti-vaccination clowns.

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**Author:** ![jlzania](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/67e7ee/32.png) [@jlzania](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jlzania)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/48 "2012-06-23T18:11:55Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> I’m genuinely curious, how did they know you’re female? I mean you’re a mammal! All the avian female things don’t apply to you.
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> Do they imprint on whatever raises them as female?

I honestly don’t have a clue how they distinguished between human males and females-we tend to all wear either jeans or shorts around here. They just did and when a strange woman got out of her car or truck, the males would race over, surround her and started spreading. Two males got into a fight over a girlfriend of mine and the bigger badder one pecked the other rather seriously on the neck. I had to break it up. All the other turkeys, including the hens, began tormenting the injured bird.  
They literally peeled the skin off of his neck.  
I ended up putting him in a separate enclosure for the last week of his life.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/49 "2012-06-23T21:33:28Z")

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I had an… interesting… experience recently, at a restaurant with an old woman who is NOT allergic to gluten. She’s just bitter and picky. She ordered two plain burgers, “And I mean plain, sonny! No vegetables, no condiments, no cheese, and no bun. If you put the bun on it, you’ll have to remake it because I can’t eat anything that’s even \*touched \*bread!” (Couldn’t you just ask for 2 plain beef patties instead?) Then she took half an hour and a massive stack of napkins to laboriously press the grease out, cut her 2 beef patties into 1 inch squares, and eat them (but spending more time talking than eating, because god thoroughly despises me).

I’m not saying there aren’t legitimate gluten allergies out there, but this is an old lady who has eaten bread and other gluten products for her entire life without any problems. She decided she was allergic to gluten a couple months ago, ostensibly because it gives her a reason to be the center of attention. uuughghugh

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/50 "2012-06-23T21:51:56Z")

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> [@Simplicio](#):
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> Almost no one gets HIV infections from blood transfusions anymore. Obviously the precautions we take to screen blood units for HIV are far out of proportion to the actual problem and we should stop wasting money doing it.

That’s why I recommend wearing a condom before you eat a peanut.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/51 "2012-06-23T22:18:45Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> [Locavores.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2LBICPEK6w)

Jesus fuck, where is a Blutbad from _Grimm_ when we need him? And I don’t mean that vegan Monroe. One who can create a bloodbath like his name.

Between the Wesen and the hipsters Portland looks like pure hell. My daughter plans to move to Eugene and I assume it’s no better. Except fewer monsters.

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**Author:** ![Jennmonkye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@Jennmonkye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennmonkye)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/52 "2012-06-23T22:25:31Z")

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> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#):
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> :eek: Did they survive?

Yep (sadly)…didn’t even get to call in the hot rescue squad guys! 😃

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**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/53 "2012-06-23T22:28:28Z")

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> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> She decided she was allergic to gluten a couple months ago, ostensibly because it gives her a reason to be the center of attention. uuughghugh

Why would you even dine out with such an ass?

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/54 "2012-06-23T22:31:09Z")

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My father in law has a 6-8 month cycle. Go to a quack, give up half your meds, cut out main staple foods, take homemade magic pills and IV pushes that aren’t FDA approved, almost die, spend 2-3 weeks and $100,000+ in the hospital on real medicine, go back to the quack and repeat. I think it’s really sad.

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/55 "2012-06-23T22:35:29Z")

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> [@jz78817](#):
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> add self-proclaimed “foodies,” “chowhounds,” and “locavores” to the list of douches with cases of unwarranted self-importance.

What about ‘supertasters’? You know, the ones who are like “I know I need to lose weight, but I can’t drink diet soda - I’m a super taster”. Like it’s not enough to say you just don’t like something.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/56 "2012-06-23T22:38:41Z")

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> [@grude](#):
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> Why would you even dine out with such an ass?

“Had an experience with” could also mean “she was at the next table and she was screeching loud enough for me to hear.”

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**Author:** ![Lacunae\_Matata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lacunae\_Matata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lacunae_Matata)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/57 "2012-06-23T23:05:02Z")

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Or “was waiting tables to pay for grad school and couldn’t get that bitch out of my section soon enough!”

Back when I was waiting tables in college, the folks with “allergies” (MSG was the big evil ingredient back in the olden days of the late eighties and early nineties) were invited to dine elsewhere, since we couldn’t guarantee that ingredients hadn’t been exposed to whatever they were allergic to.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/58 "2012-06-23T23:13:48Z")

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> [@jlzania](#):
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> You know, I’m about as locavore as you can get-I raise and process pastured poultry for sale at the local farmers market and restaurants and although most of my clients are are really great, there are a few food fadist that I want to hit over the head with a 4 pound fresh chicken.

I first read that as “pasteurized poultry”. 🙂

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/59 "2012-06-23T23:14:40Z")

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Thats kinda my thought. If I ran a resteraunt and somebody said they were allergic to something I’d ask em to leave. I ain’t taking that kind of risk.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2012, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/60 "2012-06-23T23:22:04Z")

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There might be a good reason people are telling you they have an allergy, because otherwise waiters/people in general generally ignore the request for no cheese or no tomatoes or whatever. I know this because my husband is allergic to 13 different foods. Every time he has requested no tomatoes, they’ll bring him the thing with no tomatoes next to another item with tomato sauce drizzled all over it. Or they’ll leave out only one kind of cheese or something. He once requested plain grilled chicken since he was allergic to the sauce served to the other guests. No spices, no sauces, just grilled chicken. As they handed him his grilled chicken, they said, “We just added a little salt and pepper and vinegar to taste.” Husband is allergic to vinegar. He ate it like a gentleman and spent the next day throwing up.

He hates going to restaurants because it’s a royal PITA. But when he does dine out, he explicitly says, “No X; I am allergic to X” when he requests a meal, because I am convinced when a waiter hears ‘‘allergy’’ they think ‘‘lawsuit’’ and actually pay attention. They are much better at following directions. I’m just saying it may seem obnoxious but trying to get a decent meal when so many people refuse to acknowledge your allergies is obnoxious too.

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