# Food Fadists - STFU

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2012, 5:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037 "2012-06-23T05:33:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Anne\_Neville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Anne\_Neville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anne_Neville)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/161 "2012-06-25T13:00:36Z")

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> [@rachelellogram](#):
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> Then she took half an hour and a massive stack of napkins to laboriously press the grease out

People who do this- ewww. Pressing grease out of your food with napkins is disgusting!

> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> I am not a picky eater, but prefer to eat mostly vegetables, fish or seafood as a second choice, meat is almost never a choice. I just came from a restaurant where there wasn’t a single vegetarian-friendly meal, not even a salad. Of course my experiment in Vegan living lasted a whole of two months, but I feel extremely sorry for vegetarians if they go to that restaurant, other than the wine there wasn’t a single thing they could eat.

I’m not vegetarian, but I don’t eat meat or chicken in non-kosher restaurants. My approach to restaurants like that is… don’t eat there. It’s not as if there aren’t other restaurants that are friendlier to my dietary needs.

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/162 "2012-06-25T14:07:42Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> Yes, I have no difficulty imagining that virtually everyone who knows you personally knows in great detail everything that happens to your bowels when you eat, given your lack of reluctance to share it in great detail with strangers.

Get a clue. If you had similar problems, you’d probably be doing about the same.

I don’t fault you for your lack of compassion, though. It’s human nature to not have compassion if we haven’t had some sort of similar suffering, and you clearly haven’t.

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**Author:** ![mister\_nyx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@mister\_nyx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mister_nyx)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/163 "2012-06-25T14:14:17Z")

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> [@al27052](#):
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> Get a clue. If you had similar problems, you’d probably be doing about the same.

So you’re faulting me for not being compassionate enough?

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> I don’t fault you for your lack of compassion, though. It’s human nature to not have compassion if we haven’t had some sort of similar suffering, and you clearly haven’t.

Wait, which is it?

Are you and BigT in some sort of stupidest poster competition?

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/164 "2012-06-25T14:21:01Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> I’m not vegetarian, but I don’t eat meat or chicken in non-kosher restaurants. My approach to restaurants like that is… don’t eat there. It’s not as if there aren’t other restaurants that are friendlier to my dietary needs.

Sometimes, for a reason or another, I have no choice. Luckily my not eating meat is not a religious or ethical dilemma for me, I just prefer not to. I also prefer if the people with me don’t have to spend any time pondering about my dietary choices. So I just shut up and eat as best as I can.

I am aware that doing this is not possible for some people (allergies, religion, ethics, whatever), but it works for me.

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/165 "2012-06-25T14:29:30Z")

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> [@mister\_nyx](#):
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> So you’re faulting me for not being compassionate enough?  
> Wait, which is it?
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> Are you and BigT in some sort of stupidest poster competition?

I certainly can’t fault you for your lack of life experience, can I? If you don’t have it, you don’t have it. It would be like faulting you for being rude toward someone who was complaining about changing a flat tire in the rain at night, if you’ve never even touched a tire.

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**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/166 "2012-06-25T14:53:44Z")

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> [@al27052](#):
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> I certainly can’t fault you for your lack of life experience, can I? If you don’t have it, you don’t have it. It would be like faulting you for being rude toward someone who was complaining about changing a flat tire in the rain at night, if you’ve never even touched a tire.

It’s not that I don’t LIKE changing a tire in the rain at night, I CAN’T. It’s not a choice. When I touch rubber I break out. If the tire has been heated to more than 118 degrees I get violently ill. The human body was not designed to change tires (except for the few parts of the world where the tire changing gene mutation is common). It’s not just one kind of tire either; I’m allergic (or sensitive) to 135 kinds of tires: truck, small cars, large cars, pickups, and wagons. You have no idea how inconvenient this is. My cousin’s doctor (he _is_ a ‘doctor’ even though he’s a Naturopath) told him that some tires have chemicals that are derived from animal sources, so even if I could actually touch the tire I refuse to do so.

Now sometimes I might be able to tolerate changing a small tire, especially if I’m going someplace like a wedding, but just because you saw me change a tire before doesn’t mean I can do it again.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/167 "2012-06-25T17:06:45Z")

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> [@Anne\_Neville](#):
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> People who do this- ewww. Pressing grease out of your food with napkins is disgusting! …

😕 Rude, I could see, maybe … but disgusting?

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**Author:** ![al27052](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/41988e/32.png) [@al27052](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/al27052)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/168 "2012-06-25T20:30:03Z")

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> [@fumster](#):
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> It’s not that I don’t LIKE changing a tire in the rain at night, I CAN’T. It’s not a choice. When I touch rubber I break out. If the tire has been heated to more than 118 degrees I get violently ill. The human body was not designed to change tires (except for the few parts of the world where the tire changing gene mutation is common). It’s not just one kind of tire either; I’m allergic (or sensitive) to 135 kinds of tires: truck, small cars, large cars, pickups, and wagons. You have no idea how inconvenient this is. My cousin’s doctor (he _is_ a ‘doctor’ even though he’s a Naturopath) told him that some tires have chemicals that are derived from animal sources, so even if I could actually touch the tire I refuse to do so.
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> Now sometimes I might be able to tolerate changing a small tire, especially if I’m going someplace like a wedding, but just because you saw me change a tire before doesn’t mean I can do it again.

You’re not helping your credibility. Again, not blaming, just pointing out.

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**Author:** ![flatlined](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/eb9ed0/32.png) [@flatlined](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flatlined)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/169 "2012-06-26T04:16:43Z")

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I totally believe that some people have very real allergies. I know that bad things will happen to them if they eat the wrong thing. I don’t think that people who are always sensitive to certain foods are who the OP was pitting.

Its the ones who say that they are allergic when they just don’t like something who upset me. The person I mentioned upthread who has the food allergy of the day, unless she likes it makes me nuts.

People like **Lynn** , who are _always_ sensitive or allergic to certain things are the ones who get told to just suck it up, or even worse get fed stuff that will make her sick so the controlling fuck can see her eat and not die right away while laughing…see…you aren’t _really_ allergic afterall. You ate pepper and nothing happened, hahahaha.

I try to avoid eating anything that walks and breaths air. I’m not allergic, but my system isn’t used to eating that sort of stuff anymore. When I do eat something that has been made with meat, my distress isn’t instant, but its very real.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/170 "2012-06-26T04:54:08Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> I am allergic to all fresh fruits and vegetables that I’ve been tested for, plus others I’ve had reactions to, so I just avoid them all.

I think most of us would agree that the the term “LOL” is overused and seldom meant literally, but there are times when nothing else will suffice.

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**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/171 "2012-06-26T05:52:12Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I think most of us would agree that the the term “LOL” is overused and seldom meant literally, but there are times when nothing else will suffice.

Food allergies make you laugh out loud? 😕

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**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/172 "2012-06-26T10:54:03Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Food allergies make you laugh out loud? 😕

No. Posts that, if not a joke are an outright lie, make people laugh You are not allergic to fruit and vegetables.

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**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/173 "2012-06-26T11:59:39Z")

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Isn’t a locavore someone who only eats crazy Spanish women? (Nava?)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/174 "2012-06-26T12:13:10Z")

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> [@curlcoat](#):
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> Food allergies make you laugh out loud? 😕

Not so much that. But if I were— let’s say an _unsigned editorialist_— tasked with dreaming up a list of questionable ailments suffered by a stereotypical Straight Doper, I could do no better than a mysterious allergy that excludes all fresh fruits and vegetables, yet happily permits French fries and donuts.

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**Author:** ![troubledwater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f4b2a3/32.png) [@troubledwater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/troubledwater)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/175 "2012-06-26T12:29:52Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Not so much that. But if I were— let’s say an _unsigned editorialist_— tasked with dreaming up a list of questionable ailments suffered by a stereotypical Straight Doper, I could do no better than a mysterious allergy that excludes all fresh fruits and vegetables, yet happily permits French fries and donuts.

Could easily be [Oral Allergy Syndrome](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome), which is fairly specific to unprocessed fruits and vegetables, because the offending proteins are denatured by cooking.

Unlike many food reactions, which are actually food intolerances, this is a true allergy.

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/176 "2012-06-26T13:56:29Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> So? It wasn’t called “blogging”, but writing about food, food-related stuff and posting recipes on a weekly basis is the same thing (my first site was html, then it was customized php, then Wordpress). They created the platform, I grant you that, but not the concept.

This is a bit of a hijack, but blogging has been called blogging since at least May of 1999.

Cite:

> **[History of blogging](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_blogging)**
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> While the term "blog" was not coined until the late 1990s, the history of blogging can be traced back to several digital precursors. Before "blogging" became popular, digital communities took many forms, including Usenet, commercial online services such as GEnie, BiX and the early CompuServe, e-mail lists and Bulletin Board Systems (BBS). In the 1990s, Internet forum software, such as WebEx, created running conversations with "threads". Threads are topical connections between messages on a Use...

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/177 "2012-06-26T14:14:05Z")

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I’m allergic to everything except salt, and it has to be locally grown, free-range salt harvested cruelty-free, with no parabens and not processed within the same zip code of a peanut.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/178 "2012-06-26T14:43:52Z")

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> [@troubledwater](#):
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> Could easily be [Oral Allergy Syndrome](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oral_allergy_syndrome), which is fairly specific to unprocessed fruits and vegetables, because the offending proteins are denatured by cooking.
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> Unlike many food reactions, which are actually food intolerances, this is a true allergy.

I have OAS. It does not cover all fruits and vegetables that exist in the world. That Wikipedia link has a list of associated fruits and vegetables, and I notice a lack of leafy greens and cruciferous vegetables, for example.

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**Author:** ![Max\_Torque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Max\_Torque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Torque)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/179 "2012-06-26T14:48:02Z")

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“I would like a bowl of boiling hot water, with ice, but I don’t want the ice to melt and get all small. And I want my turkey sandwich cut into fourteen quadrants, I know it’s impossible but quadrants, and dropped onto my plate from a height of ten feet with an attitude of regret. Tee hee, sorry to be such a pain!”

– Maria Bamford

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-fadists-stfu/626037/180 "2012-06-26T14:50:13Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> I think they’ll tell the truth, which is that humans have been drinking milk for (at least) tens of thousands of years without any problems, and it hasn’t suddenly become a problem in the last 50.

Some people have. Some people haven’t. (Some) Southeast Asians are particularly susceptible to lactose intolerance because they don’t have a history of dairy consumption.

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