# Food preferences that people think make them superior **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2005, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404 "2005-01-12T16:37:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/141 "2005-01-13T08:17:50Z")
> [@beergeek279](#): > > Well, I hope that you feel the same way about people who “care about wine a bit too much” and that all wine tastes like Arbor Mist, because to be honest, I’m a little sick of the perception that somehow an appreciation of fine wine is a symbol of sophistication yet beer drinkers are inching their way towards the trailer park. > Yes, I definitely take my beer seriously, but I hope I’m not being a snob about it. There was a time when I was out with my friends, and since there was nothing but macros available (Budweiser, Bud Light, Coors Light, Miller Light and Amber Bock) I refused to drink, and I regret that a bit (though I try not to support A-B in any way, mostly because they’re responsible for the completely fucked up Non-Intoxicating Beer Act here in WV, and I don’t want to give the bastards a penny). But if you offered me an MGD and a Heineken, I’d take the MGD in a second. The MGD, ice cold, is tolerable and good enough as a lawnmower beer, but the Heineken is actively awful, with that goddamn lightstruck flavor (which deliberate or not is definitely NOT a sought-after aspect of brewing.) I’m definitely a craft beer guy for sure, but after a phase of a Big Beer Bias, I’ve come back to enjoying the qualities of a good lager (and as a homebrewer, would definitely love to make one if I could fine some cold-fermenting space). Heineken’s a funny beast. I thought I hated Heineken until I had it in the Netherlands. It wasn’t even from the tap. It was bottled Heineken, but it came in a brown bottle, not a green one. Unlike the stuff in the US, it tasted really good. No, I wasn’t high or anything when I drank it. MGD is meh. I thought it was my cheap beer of choice until one night at the bar, after drinking three of these, I decided to have an Old Style. After several MGDs, the Old Style was an explosion of flavor. PBR is quite the same. It seems to be the trendy beer among young urban hipsters, but for a cheap beer, it actually isn’t all that bad. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/142 "2005-01-13T08:53:58Z")
> [@featherlou](#): > > (And processed cheese is not cheese. They should have a different name to avoid confusion, especially in restaurants where they pretend to be serving cheddar or swiss, but it’s not.) OMG, are you my long lost twin? I hate that. What’s worse is, that in the midwest, they aren’t pretending, they actually BELIEVE that american cheese is the same as cheddar, and that that individually sliced and wrapped white american cheese clone is the same as swiss. Shudder. Right up there with people who eat dogs with ketchup. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/143 "2005-01-13T09:18:53Z")
> [@Dob](#): > > Not a food snob here. I have yet to meet a food I didnt like!! > > as for other food snobs, my only pet peeve is Diet Sodas in fast food places. I mean, COME ON! A super size number 3…with a diet?? who ya fooling here? If you are at a fast food place, you might as well live it up. dont think it makes you smarter or better to order a diet!!! I don’t like the flavor of regular. I really do drink diet coke, “just for the taste of it”. I do like mountain dew and 7up type drinks regular, but none of the dark drinks, they’re just too overwhelmingly syrupy. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 10:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/144 "2005-01-13T10:03:22Z")
> [@Pensandfeathers](#): > > I work at a coffee shop, so I am witness to drink snobbery on a daily basis. For the most part its fine, but there can be some real jerks. > > There’s this guy who always brags about how he gets “man coffee,” which is just straight black from the drip. If he’s waiting in line he openly disapproves of the other costumer’s mochas and vanilla lattes, calling them “wussy lady drinks.” > > I don’t care if he doesn’t like the fancy stuff, but that doesn’t give him the right to ridicule the people who do to their faces. Luckily he’s only a semi-regular. Pppppfffftttt “man coffee”??? Mere DRIP? Hah, I see his so-called man coffee and raise him my quad sludge cup!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/145 "2005-01-13T10:15:14Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Oh, man! That brings back memories. There used to be this little Korean restaurant on Fireweed in Anchorage that had the best kimchee. My roomate and I were apparantly the only roundeyes who would eat it, and we’d always get an order to go as well. The sovereign cure for damn near anything! 😃 Near iCopy? Denali and Fireweed?? I think it’s still there. Although, the Government Hill “chinese greasy spoon” has the best kimchee, both delicate in texture AND burn your nose hairs spicy, and no bokchoy (that’s why I like the cucumber kimchee, never was a fan of the bokchoy kind). I know, I know weird kimchee at a chinese restuarant, but you know Alaskans, “We don’t GIVE a damn how they do it outside”…hell we also have “cajun” mexican food 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Blown\_Injected](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@Blown\_Injected](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blown_Injected)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/146 "2005-01-13T11:13:35Z")
Sorry but anybody that asks for a well done steak needs to be ridiculed. 😃 lite beer sucks ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/147 "2005-01-13T11:57:04Z")
> [@Blown & Injected](#): > > Sorry but anybody that asks for a well done steak needs to be ridiculed. > 😃 > lite beer sucks They must be burnt. No mooing, no death throes. I LOVE the little crispy bits, I’ve never known any chef (and even I’ve learned to do it right) who hasn’t managed to cook well done, just as tender and tasty as the “appropriate” doneness. So thhhhhhpppppppbbbbbbtttt to you too!! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Shade](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shade)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/148 "2005-01-13T12:04:08Z")
On topic: Real coffee vs. instant coffee. Caffeinated beverages vs. non-caffeinated – this works both ways. Squishy cheese – I love cheese with taste, and can’t imagine why someone would buy orange plastic, but always feel intimidated that I like brie or stilton only in extreme moderation. Off topic: > [@SusanStoHelit](#): > > What I am looking for is an explanation that I could discuss or a position I could see myself holding, so I do need it in a language I am comfortable with, namely science. Moral decisions are too subjective and personal to expect them to apply to everyone, but science is universal. But explanations don’t work like that. What if someone asked you to explain theft, and when you said you thought it was unfair to the person who’s property was taken they said “I don’t want to talk about some sort of karma, what’s the scientific explanation?” You might be able to explain why evolution produces people who think theft is wrong. You might be able to exlpain logically why everyone would be better off if no-one stole. But even if you couldn’t, you would still think it was wrong, and probably say something like “I wouldn’t do it because I wouldn’t want someone to do it to me.” If you’re vegetarian for health reasons you could explain that, but if for moral reasons, no. ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/149 "2005-01-13T12:47:54Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I’d have sex with a diseased yak if there were white chocolate involved. I am a white-chocolate-whore. Hell, I’d have a mass orgy with a herd of diseased yaks if there was white chocolate involved. ---
**Author:** ![Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Hey\_It\_s\_That\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_It_s_That_Guy)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/150 "2005-01-13T13:22:37Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > PBR is quite the same. It seems to be the trendy beer among young urban hipsters, but for a cheap beer, it actually isn’t all that bad. You called? _(he asked, straightening his Elvis glasses, which he wore with a bowling shirt and wingtips.)_ As much as I love Guinness, I really developed a taste for Pabst Blue Ribbon, and I’ll take it over any Anheuser-Busch or Miller product any day. It’s hard to find in Florida so it’s still a bit of a novelty and has that “hipster” connotation, but whenever I find a 12-pack and share it with skeptics and nonbelievers, they usually end up agreeing that it does the job and tastes pretty damn good. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/151 "2005-01-13T14:04:46Z")
> [@milroyj](#): > > But you do eat bratwurst. What does that make you, a poseur? Exactly–nailed it in one, **milroy**! Which is why I live in awe of your intellect. > [@crazycatlady](#): > > I think what Susan is trying to say about the vegetarian belief system is the same thing I generally tell people: I don’t care about what you eat or don’t eat, so please don’t tell me about it. At the risk of further degrading your opinion of me, I don’t believe you. As I stated before, I’m guessing you very much care whether people are eating foods obtained in certain ways (via theft or murder, for example), and you would take action to prevent people from eating such foods. The difference between you and militant vegans is that your moral system coincides with the moral system of society at large: society at large objects to eating foods obtained through theft or murder. Society at large doesn’t object to eating foods obtained through the slaughter of animals. So when you speak out against the cannibal, society supports you; when the vegan speaks out against the carnivore, society doesn’t support her. I don’t lecture people on their meat-eating habits. But I can understand what motivates a vegan to do so, and it’s incorrect to dismiss it as self-righteousness. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/152 "2005-01-13T14:16:54Z")
Count me another in the camp that gets diet coke at a fast food place (or anywhere, unless I get tea or water). Usually I get a pretty decent sized drink. I’m already eating a pound’s worth of calories. There’s no sense in getting regular coke and making it TWO pounds. Plus, aside from that, I’m trying to cut out corn syrup from my diet in any easy ways I can, and cokes are probably one of the biggest sources of it. Too much trouble to avoid it completely, but the stuff ain’t really good for you, and there’s no sense in drinking it when there’s a perfectly suitable alternative. If I’m lucky enough to go to a place that has serve yourself drinks, and they also have tea (which means a bin of lemons), I’ll load it up with some real lemon too. I am not a food snob. I will eat damn near anything, provided: -If it has tomato, it must be completely pureéd and thoroughly cooked. -If it has onions, they much be very small pieces, and NOT crunchy or raw at all, and -I like how it smells. Granted, I don’t _like_ everything I try, but I have a few bottles of top shelf liquor and still like Mike’s Hard Lemonade, I have eaten at fancy French restaurants in Québec, but I can still appreciate a box of McDonald’s french fries. Variety is the spice of life after all. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/153 "2005-01-13T14:43:42Z")
> [@Melandry](#): > > I assume from the earlier location discussion that you have tried [Spike’s Junkyard Dogs](http://www.boston.com/dining/restaurant/1429)? I must admit I’ve never even heard of them. Until now. Move aside and pass the mustard. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/154 "2005-01-13T15:11:09Z")
> [@](#): > > **Left Hand of Dorkness** said: > At the risk of further degrading your opinion of me, I don’t believe you. As I stated before, I’m guessing you very much care whether people are eating foods obtained in certain ways (via theft or murder, for example), and you would take action to prevent people from eating such foods. Did we just enter a world in which fish didn’t have to die in order to be eaten? Or does the killing of fish en masse not equal murder? > [@](#): > > So when you speak out against the cannibal, society supports you; when the vegan speaks out against the carnivore, society doesn’t support her. Some of us also have no moral objection to cannibalism when the eatee died of natural causes, or when he or she consented to be eaten. > [@](#): > > I don’t lecture people on their meat-eating habits. Because they might bring up the fact that fish and bratwurst both come from animals? As for the ketchup on hot dogs, I eat them that way because I despise mustard. In order to eat mustard, it must be heavily disguised inside the deviled eggs or potato salad. Why does the mustard clan look down on ketchup on hot dogs with such high and mighty superiority? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/155 "2005-01-13T15:14:06Z")
> [@HazelNutCoffee](#): > > I am a white-chocolate-whore. Hell, I’d have a mass orgy with a herd of diseased yaks if there was white chocolate involved. Hmm, here I am with this glut of white chocolate that I can never finish, and I smell like a herd if diseased yaks. What to do, what to do? ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/156 "2005-01-13T15:15:44Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Why does the mustard clan look down on ketchup on hot dogs with such high and mighty superiority? I’ll try to explain it to you in the most scientific and objective manner possible: Ewww! ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/157 "2005-01-13T15:17:34Z")
So it’s the same stomach churn I feel at the thought of eating something that’s been covered in the evil yellow shellac of doom? ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/158 "2005-01-13T15:18:18Z")
> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#): > > \ So when you speak out against the cannibal, society supports you; when the vegan speaks out against the carnivore, society doesn’t support her. > \ Vegans are against dogs and cats? Cause that’s the only carnivores around _my_ neighbourhood. Humans are omnivores; I know of no humans in my circle who eat only meat. If you’re going to be tendentious, you should probably get your terms straight. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/159 "2005-01-13T15:21:33Z")
**catsix** , are you trying to out-dumb **milroy**? Cuz you ain’t gonna give him a run for his money. I can dismiss your post by repeating what I said before: “I don’t lecture people on their meat-eating habits. But I can understand what motivates a vegan to do so, and it’s incorrect to dismiss it as self-righteousness.” So pointing out that I can’t lecture people on their meat-eating habits is kind of irrelevant. > [@featherlou](#): > > Vegans are against dogs and cats? Cause that’s the only carnivores around _my_ neighbourhood. Humans are omnivores; I know of no humans in my circle who eat only meat. If you’re going to be tendentious, you should probably get your terms straight. I can never guard against willful misunderstanding. You’re correct, of course, that “omnivore” is a more appropriate term above; feel free to substitute it. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404/160 "2005-01-13T15:21:51Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > So it’s the same stomach churn I feel at the thought of eating something that’s been covered in the evil yellow shellac of doom? Oh no, far worse. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/food-preferences-that-people-think-make-them-superior/284404.md?page=9)