# Foods/dishes whose name does not compute **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** food-cooking\ **Created:** [April 3, 2023, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092 "2023-04-03T16:11:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/141 "2023-06-10T18:28:25Z")
> [@alovem](#): > > The _tortas_ that inspired the use of the word tortilla in Latin America were unleavened wheat flour and I’m guessing water and salt and nothing else. This must be one of the oldest foods since agriculture started. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/142 "2023-06-10T18:56:58Z")
> [@Didi44](#): > > Toad in a hole I was thinking of making Toad in a Hole for breakfast this morning. Didn’t, but had to happen sometime soon I think. Also, no scotch in Scotch Eggs. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/143 "2023-06-10T20:42:24Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Scotch Eggs Still tasty despite this disappointment. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/144 "2023-06-10T20:45:39Z")
> [@griffin1977](#): > > Surely tortilla and burrito have to win this thread. > > “Little cake” wtf what kind of cake is this? It’s just corn and water, no icing, sprinkles or anything remotely cake-like. Tortas at any Mexican restaurant I go to are sandwiches. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/145 "2023-06-10T20:56:10Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > Still tasty despite this disappointment. This got me thinking. I’ve been jazzing up my Scotch Eggs lately, Could an egg be pickled in scotch? ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/146 "2023-06-10T21:01:20Z")
A site called St Ewe Eggs dot com has a recipe for eggs pickled in wine. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/147 "2023-06-10T21:02:56Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I was thinking of making Toad in a Hole for breakfast this morning. Didn’t, but had to happen sometime soon I think. Two things. firstly, it is very definitely “Toad in _the_ hole”. Secondly, for _breakfast_? that’s borderline insane. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/148 "2023-06-10T21:08:55Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Secondly, for _breakfast_? that’s borderline insane. But thoroughly delicious. What’s wrong with having it for breakfast, even if it is not traditional? I do think some people may be getting the Yorkshire Pudding recipe by that name with the piece of toast with an egg placed in the middle that goes by that name (wrongly IMO) on the U.S. side of the pond. The Yorkshire Pudding version is far, far superior. I might be biased. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/149 "2023-06-10T21:21:13Z")
Yeah, I’ve seen Toad in the Hole recipes over here that are more like a sausage omelet than real Toad in the Hole. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/150 "2023-06-10T21:24:06Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > But thoroughly delicious. What’s wrong with having it for breakfast, even if it is not traditional? It is just wrong, there are laws. Not even my wife would do that and she loves it, and she will have pizza for breakfast, and she _is_ borderline insane but she still has her dignity. > [@carnut](#): > > The Yorkshire Pudding version is far, far superior. I might be biased. Well quite, that is the only food item that bears that name. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/151 "2023-06-10T21:31:30Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Well quite, that is the only food item that bears that name. Ahem: [Toad in the Hole Recipe: How to Make It](https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/toad-in-the-hole/) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/152 "2023-06-10T21:41:28Z")
That’s an Egg in a Basket. Or possibly an [Egg in a Hole](https://www.thekitchn.com/eggs-in-a-basket-recipe-23198166) according to this random bit of internetery. Toad in the Hole is breakfast sausage and Yorkshire Pudding. My method is to brown the sausage in the baking pan with a little oil which preheats the pan and adds some flavor to the oil. If I’m lazy enough one day I’ll just pour the pudding mix right over the sausages but so far I’ve removed them then placed them on top like in the pictures. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/153 "2023-06-10T21:53:54Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > Ahem: [Toad in the Hole Recipe: How to Make It](https://www.tasteofhome.com/recipes/toad-in-the-hole/) nope, just a blank page. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/154 "2023-06-10T21:58:11Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > My method is to brown the sausage in the baking pan with a little oil which preheats the pan and adds some flavor to the oil. If I’m lazy enough one day I’ll just pour the pudding mix right over the sausages but so far I’ve removed them then placed them on top like in the pictures. yes, browning the sausages in the oil is a good idea, but just a little. The oil needs to be smoking hot so there is a risk of burning them. And you don’t need to pour the batter over the sausages but if the oil and the pan is hot enough then pouring it into the gaps will see it lift the sausages. One little tip, if you can get it, beef dripping is the very best fat to use. ---
**Author:** ![Didi44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@Didi44](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Didi44)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/155 "2023-06-10T21:58:55Z")
And no armadillo in armadillo eggs! In the opposite direction, I was shocked to learn that bird’s nest soup is actually bird’s nest! I used to think it was noodles…but noooooo. In Hawaii, we call Chinese shu mai, pork hash, but my Dad taught me to call them _okole_, Hawaiian for butt, which I did until my teens, and always knew exactly what part of the butt it was named for! Fortunately, our favorite dim sum place knew what we meant. We also have _okolehao_, butt iron. Hawaiian moonshine. > **[Okolehao](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okolehao)** > > Okolehao is a Hawaiian alcoholic spirit whose main ingredient was the root of the ti plant. Okolehao's forerunner was a fermented ti root beverage or beer. When distillation techniques were introduced by English seamen in 1790, it was distilled into a highly alcoholic spirit. > Hawaiians discovered that if the ti root is baked, a sweet liquid migrates to the surface of the root. Chemically, the heat changes the starch in the root to a fermentable sugar. The baked root is then soaked in a vat of wa... ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/156 "2023-06-10T22:07:06Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > One little tip, if you can get it, beef dripping is the very best fat to use. Indubitably. I otherwise make Yorkshire pudding under a rib roast in the oven, no need for sausages there. For Toad the sausages don’t need to be fully cooked, they’ll finish with the pudding. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/157 "2023-06-10T22:10:22Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > For Toad the sausages don’t need to be fully cooked, they’ll finish with the pudding. Mine are browned in the hot oil, from raw, for about 60 seconds, then in with the batter, then 25 minutes at 220C (_preheated_, absolutely critical) and they are perfectly cooked. ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/158 "2023-06-11T00:48:34Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > That’s an Egg in a Basket. I am not arguing about the greatness of a proper English Toad in the Hole. I am merely pointing out that on the U.S. side of the pond there are many who call the toast/egg thing Toad in the Hole. And they aren’t wrong either, even if they are missing out on the tasty one. Different society, same term. It happens. ---
**Author:** ![Blindmellowjelly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blindmellowjelly/32/13920_2.png) [@Blindmellowjelly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blindmellowjelly)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/159 "2023-06-11T01:00:28Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > “Chicken fried steak”. > > I honestly have no idea what it is. Is it steak? Is it chicken? Is it steak fried by a chicken? What? It’s “Stil: Huehner frittenden Kotelette” or teutonic-texan Rinderschnitzel. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2023, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092/160 "2023-06-11T01:06:34Z")
> [@carnut](#): > > And they aren’t wrong either, even if they are missing out on the tasty one. Different society, same term. It happens. Of course they’re wrong. First of all they’re disagreeing with me. Secondly, and almost as importantly, no rational person would think an egg is somehow representative of a toad. It’s a stretch for a sausage, no argument there, but between the two the sausage is it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-dishes-whose-name-does-not-compute/982092.md?page=9)