# Foods whose names have changed **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 5, 2010, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412 "2010-03-05T14:45:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Arcite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/67e7ee/32.png) [@Arcite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arcite)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/81 "2010-03-08T03:40:29Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > “Pasta” is a level above “noodles.” In other words, all noodles are pasta (well, not exactly, but bear with me here), but not all pasta is noodles. For instance, ravioli, bowtie pasta, etc = not noodles. I’m guessing the latin root is the same . . . in Spanish, pasta just means “paste,” which is what pasta starts out as. There’s logical consistency here. It’s not a marketing thing, or (I think), an attempt to sound trendy. Oh, I know that; I’m just saying I don’t think white-bread Anglo-Americans had the word “pasta” and thus didn’t really have a word for that general category of foodstuff. They would say “I had spaghetti for dinner” or “I had ravioli,” but if you asked them for a word that describes the general substance, I think they would have been at a loss. ---
**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/82 "2010-03-08T06:54:41Z")
> [@TheChileanBlob](#): > > I thought loosemeat was what we in the south call 'barbecue." To me, sloppy joes are hamburger meat cooked with a tomato sauce and served on a bun. Strange thing is that _barbecues_ would be another word used for sloppy joes in the Midwest. But then the Midwest isn’t exactly known for BBQ. Your comment does indicate that name changes of food need not be done for marketing or health reasons, a bit of, um, distasteful sneakiness in my book. They can also be simply regionally influenced. ---
**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/83 "2010-03-08T07:42:41Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > In candy: > > (vanilla half of) Milky Way –\> Forever Yours –\> Milky Way Dark –\> Milky Way Midnight. When Forrest Mars started Mars Limited in England in 1932, he changed the name of the chocolate Milky Way to Mars Bar. The chocolate 3 Musketeers became the Milky Way, and Snickers became Marathon. Marathon has since become Snickers, and Milky Way has changed to vanilla flavour, but the bar that’s a Milky Way in the US is still a Mars Bar everywhere else (as far as I know – it do get confusing, don’t it?) ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/84 "2010-03-08T14:16:22Z")
When my daughter became a Girl Scout this year, I discovered that a lot of the cookie names had changed from when I sold them. Samoas -\> Caramel DeLites Do-si-dos -\> Peanut Butter Sandwiches Tagalongs -\> Peanut Butter Patties Trefoils -\> Shortbread Sure, the new names are more descriptive, but they lack poetry. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/85 "2010-03-08T14:32:26Z")
[Funny Face drink mix](http://theyalwayscomeback.blogspot.com/2008/01/funny-face-drink-mix.html) originally had Chinese Cherry and Injun Orange. Protests about sterotyping lead to changing the names to Choo-Chho Cherry and Jolly Olly Orange. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/86 "2010-03-08T14:57:25Z")
Moo juice evolves into “milk” after third grade… ---
**Author:** ![JpnDude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/838e76/32.png) [@JpnDude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JpnDude)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/87 "2010-03-08T15:34:13Z")
Aren’t most “wrap” type-sandwiches just essentially tacos or burritos? ---
**Author:** ![crazyjoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f14d63/32.png) [@crazyjoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crazyjoe)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/88 "2010-03-08T15:49:10Z")
> [@rjk](#): > > Completely off-topic, but funny anyway: Zyada and I found a couple of those in a booth at a wap meet, painted to resemble slices of watermelon. Somehow appropriate, I think. At some point they stopped being waps and started beign called Italian Americans, but I don’t think we ever ATE them. ---
**Author:** ![aktep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f0a364/32.png) [@aktep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aktep)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/89 "2010-03-08T15:57:28Z")
> [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](#): > > When my daughter became a Girl Scout this year, I discovered that a lot of the cookie names had changed from when I sold them. > > Samoas -\> Caramel DeLites > Do-si-dos -\> Peanut Butter Sandwiches > Tagalongs -\> Peanut Butter Patties > Trefoils -\> Shortbread > > Sure, the new names are more descriptive, but they lack poetry. This has something to do with the manufacturer of the cookies. There’s two, and one uses the descriptive names while one uses the whimsical names. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/90 "2010-03-08T16:00:30Z")
> [@TheChileanBlob](#): > > I thought loosemeat was what we in the south call 'barbecue." To me, sloppy joes are hamburger meat cooked with a tomato sauce and served on a bun. I’ve never heard that. Perhaps you have it backwards: like **Tethered Kite** , I have heard of sloppy joes (a type of loose-meat sandwich) being called barbecue sandwiches, but I have never heard of pulled/chopped pork being called loose-meat sandwiches. A loose-meat sandwich is basically a sloppy joe without the tomato/barbecue sauce (although there are references that indicate in some places loose-meat sandwich was synonymous with sloppy joe.) [Here’s a little history about the term.](http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/loose_meat_sandwich/) ---
**Author:** ![MitzeKatze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ad7895/32.png) [@MitzeKatze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MitzeKatze)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/91 "2010-03-08T16:15:21Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > This has something to do with the manufacturer of the cookies. There’s two, and one uses the descriptive names while one uses the whimsical names. I am so glad you said that! I know I recently bought (and ate) a box of Samoas, so I started wondering just how old the cookies the Girl Scouts are selling around here really are. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/92 "2010-03-08T16:18:06Z")
Sloppy Joes are browned hamburger in a tomato sauce. > **[Best Ever Sloppy Joes Recipe](https://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/sloppy_joes/)** > > Best Ever Sloppy Joes! These cook in one pot, with ground beef, onions, garlic, carrots, and celery, in sweet-and-sour tomato sauce. Served messy on purpose, over hamburger buns. As a kid, my mom bought Manwich. A sloppy joe sauce in a can. Brown the hamburger and stir in the sauce. The heartburn from this stuff would nearly kill me now. :eek: > **[Manwich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manwich)** > > Manwich, a portmanteau of man and sandwich, is the brand name of a canned sloppy joe sauce produced by ConAgra Foods and Hunt's, introduced in 1969. The can contains seasoned tomato sauce that is added to ground beef cooked in a skillet. It is marketed as a quick and easy one-pan meal for the whole family. Manwich's slogan is, "A sandwich is a sandwich, but a Manwich is a meal." > Manwich Heat & Serve was introduced in 2004. It contains both the seasoned tomato sauce and ground beef in a microwa... ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/93 "2010-03-08T16:36:01Z")
I could be wrong on this, but I could have sworn that when I was a child, that Oscar Mayer’s braunschweiger was sold under the label “liverwurst.” ---
**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/94 "2010-03-08T18:33:31Z")
> [@aktep](#): > > This has something to do with the manufacturer of the cookies. There’s two, and one uses the descriptive names while one uses the whimsical names. Ah, ignorance fought. So perhaps it has more to do with my geographical relocation since childhood. ---
**Author:** ![Tethered\_Kite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a5b964/32.png) [@Tethered\_Kite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tethered_Kite)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/95 "2010-03-08T18:40:51Z")
So, speaking of sandwiches, who can tackle the puzzle of the differences among: Po’ boy Blimp Hero Submarine? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/96 "2010-03-08T18:46:20Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Has anyone not singing “Amore” used the term “pizza pie” in the last 40 years or so? I can’t find a cite for this now, but I read once that “pizza” is simply Italian for “pie” and could refer to any kind of pie. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/97 "2010-03-08T18:54:44Z")
> [@Tethered\_Kite](#): > > So, speaking of sandwiches, who can tackle the puzzle of the differences among: > > Po’ boy > Blimp > Hero > Submarine? Don’t forget hoagie, grinder and torpedo. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/98 "2010-03-08T18:58:30Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > I can’t find a cite for this now, but I read once that “pizza” is simply Italian for “pie” and could refer to any kind of pie. During the 1980s, at least, all the Noo Yawkers called a complete pizza (as opposed to pizza slices) a “pie”, as in “Hey, wanna’ order a pie?”, while those from Upstate New York simply called it “pizza”. ---
**Author:** ![zeldarae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f14d63/32.png) [@zeldarae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zeldarae)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/99 "2010-03-08T19:22:07Z")
> [@Tethered\_Kite](#): > > So, speaking of sandwiches, who can tackle the puzzle of the differences among: > > Po’ boy > Blimp > Hero > Submarine? Poboys are made on a French bread loaf…other than that they are just the same as the others (except when they have fried seafood and taste good enough to slap your mama). ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2010, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412/100 "2010-03-08T19:55:43Z")
The big sandwich on a long roll seems to have more different names than any other food. I don’t know why. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foods-whose-names-have-changed/531412.md?page=6)