# foolsguinea, get your worthless self down here. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617 "2014-06-25T16:13:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/21 "2014-06-25T20:55:39Z")
White people don’t like Jews owning large parts of the U.S. financial and entertainment industries because they _hate_ competition. Though I don’t think this distinction should generally be made. Should black people or Asians or whoever care about what weird categories white people dice themselves up into? Bunch of crazy crackers, all of them. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/22 "2014-06-25T21:01:16Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > White people don’t like Jews owning large parts of the U.S. financial and entertainment industries because they _hate_ competition. Though I don’t think this distinction should generally be made. Should black people or Asians or whoever care about what weird categories white people dice themselves up into? Bunch of crazy crackers, all of them. Performance art? Are Jews white people or not in this piece? Is the irony of making racist statements about white people intentional or not? Like all good art, this poses more questions than it answers. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/23 "2014-06-25T21:29:05Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > George called his wife a bitch. > Wow, I can’t believe he would say such a thing. > He was drunk > Oh, now I understand. Worst limerick I’ve ever read. ---
**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/24 "2014-06-25T21:33:04Z")
If this is not too much of a derailing of the thread: every time someone makes a statement about “the Jews this, the Whites think that, the Blacks whatever whatever, all women/men/gays yadda yadda”, I think we’d agree this is the cognitive distortion of overgeneralization. My question: does an overgeneralization of this sort _necessarily_ betray an underlying racism/sexism/whateverism? ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/25 "2014-06-25T21:45:37Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, if they do run Hollywood, can somebody get into one of their secret meetings and tell them we’re sick of goddamned superhero movies? Dear Jews Running Hollywood, Please do not listen to this crazy person. Thanks. > [@Truman\_Burbank](#): > > If this is not too much of a derailing of the thread: every time someone makes a statement about “the Jews this, the Whites think that, the Blacks whatever whatever, all women/men/gays yadda yadda”, I think we’d agree this is the cognitive distortion of overgeneralization. > My question: does an overgeneralization of this sort _necessarily_ betray an underlying racism/sexism/whateverism? Only when white people do it because only white people can be racist/sexist/whateverist. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/26 "2014-06-25T21:52:16Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Are Jews white people or not in this piece? Most white people reject that concept, so practically speaking, no. But it can be hard for outsiders to understand. Like all the European racial wars, AKA white people killing other white people for not being up to their white cultural standards (aside from naked resource grabs, of course). Germans vs. the “sub-human” Slavs? WTF? You’re some of the whitest people on the planet. Get outta here. You see something similar when white people look at Rwanda. “Tutsi? Hutu? Uhh, sure, good luck with that.” It’s all in the perspective. If aliens showed up they’d be even more confused about humanity in general. > [@](#): > > Is the irony of making racist statements about white people intentional or not? If white people can’t even call other white people crazy crackers anymore I want off the ride. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/27 "2014-06-25T21:53:37Z")
So, “Jews are traditionally big in entertainment because that’s all they were allowed to do” is okay, but “Jews control Hollywood” makes you Hitler. Got it. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/28 "2014-06-25T21:58:34Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > White people don’t like Jews owning large parts of the U.S. financial and entertainment industries because they _hate_ competition. Though I don’t think this distinction should generally be made. Should black people or Asians or whoever care about what weird categories white people dice themselves up into? Bunch of crazy crackers, all of them. Jews aren’t white people? I’m even more shocked by this than when I found out Hispanics weren’t white either. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/29 "2014-06-25T22:17:38Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > Well, if they do run Hollywood, can somebody get into one of their secret meetings and tell them we’re sick of goddamned superhero movies? No. > [@marshmallow](#): > > Most white people reject that concept, so practically speaking, no. Wait, what? I’m not white? ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/30 "2014-06-25T22:19:55Z")
> [@Green\_Bean](#): > > Wait, what? I’m not white? I’ve seen you and I gotta say: you are really, really white. Also. . . Hey look! It’s Green Bean! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/31 "2014-06-25T22:23:44Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Jews aren’t white people? I’m even more shocked by this than when I found out Hispanics weren’t white either. They are now, yes. If you’d asked a couple of generations ago you’d have gotten a different answer. The same goes for the Irish, Eastern Europeans, and (I think) Italians over time. > [@levdrakon](#): > > So, “Jews are traditionally big in entertainment because that’s all they were allowed to do” is okay, but “Jews control Hollywood” makes you Hitler. Got it. Hey, champ! Glad you could take a minute away from bashing women. ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/32 "2014-06-25T22:25:35Z")
With regards to the “are Jews white?” side-conversation: The white Jews I know are the _whitest_ people I know. I mean you might as well say the Irish aren’t white. As for things having been different a long time ago, well, people were stupid a long time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/33 "2014-06-25T22:26:18Z")
Apropos of very little, does liking [this song](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlYeOLUhrJY) make me a bigot? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/34 "2014-06-25T22:27:17Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I’m even more shocked by this than when I found out Hispanics weren’t white either. Surprised the hell out of my 1/8 Mexican cousin when she went off to college at Vanderbilt, too. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/35 "2014-06-25T22:30:08Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > I’ve seen you and I gotta say: you are really, really white. > Also. . . Hey look! It’s Green Bean! LOL. I’m not SO white that I fade into the background. Yeah, okay, maybe a little. I do have an interesting red spot on my arm where I biffed the sunscreen application at the beach on Sunday. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/36 "2014-06-25T22:32:26Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Hey, champ! Glad you could take a minute away from bashing women. He’s the same guy who argues that having a swastika tattoo is absolutely nothing to even mention, so… yeah. His views on antisemitism aren’t necessarily all that persuasive. As for foolsguinea, I’ve been noticing him/her lately. Usually saying stuff that sounds like someone who is actually drunk. Check out the Redskins win! thread for examples of things that will just make you stare at your screen. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/37 "2014-06-25T22:40:18Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > They are now, yes. If you’d asked a couple of generations ago you’d have gotten a different answer. The same goes for the Irish, Eastern Europeans, and (I think) Italians over time. > > Hey, champ! Glad you could take a minute away from bashing women. Hey moron, how ya been? Head still up your own ass I see. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/38 "2014-06-25T22:40:31Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > With regards to the “are Jews white?” side-conversation: The white Jews I know are the _whitest_ people I know. I mean you might as well say the Irish aren’t white. Yeah. My husband’s Irish and I’m Jewish. We both have relatives who basically fry in the sun. We’ve also both got a lot of blue eyed and red haired relatives. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/39 "2014-06-25T22:42:26Z")
But control of the media and the secret world government is probably a reasonable tradeoff, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/40 "2014-06-25T23:06:56Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > The same goes for the Irish, Eastern Europeans, and (I think) Italians over time. Don’t forget the Portuguese. I’ve actually met a couple of folks in 21rst century California that don’t think the Portuguese are white or are at best a highly qualified subgroup ( “well…they’re sorta white…I guess” ). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617.md?page=3)