# foolsguinea, get your worthless self down here.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 25, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617 "2014-06-25T16:13:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/61 "2014-06-26T15:41:16Z")

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The “ethnic arrogance” and criticism of Israel was a nice touch. Because nothing says you’re not anti-Semitic like making anti-Semitic statements!

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/62 "2014-06-26T16:00:02Z")

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I’m about as honky, cracker white as can be and I wouldn’t know a Jewish person if they walked up and smacked me with a gefilte fish.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/63 "2014-06-26T16:04:33Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I’m about as honky, cracker white as can be and I wouldn’t know a Jewish person if they walked up and smacked me with a gefilte fish.

No decent Jew would foster gefilte fish on a poor, unsuspecting goy. It’s like making non-Swedes eat lutefisk.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/64 "2014-06-26T16:11:58Z")

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Now I’m really confused. Performance art, or sincerely terrible apology?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/65 "2014-06-26T16:12:04Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> No decent Jew would foster gefilte fish on a poor, unsuspecting goy. It’s like making non-Swedes eat lutefisk.

Thems fighting words! My goyim hubby loves my gefilte fish, as do my kids. My mom made the best homemade.

🙂

Now chicken feet and galah on the other hand…

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/66 "2014-06-26T16:19:30Z")

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I don’t get threads like these. It’s always some hyperbole about how so-and-so is scum because they said something (gasp) RACIST! (or anti-semitic, homophobic, misogynistic, or any kind of “ic”) Then I click on the link, expecting some KKK Grandmaster tirade, but it’s usually some offhanded remark that endangers absolutely no one. The analysts and talking heads chime in, speculating on content and meaning, thereby increasing the hyperbole. After the dust settles, the finger-pointer and fellow offendeds have actually spouted more hate than the finger-pointed.

All sound and fury, signifying nothing.

So, offended person, what did you accomplish when you exposed these horrible words? Did it single-handedly change society’s views? Did you inspire the quoted to renounce their erroneous ways and dedicate their lives to eliminate hate? Or did you just do it for the OMG drama?

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/67 "2014-06-26T16:23:35Z")

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I can top anyone in the disgusting food department.

My late mother:

made baked apples with diet soda.

made tuna fish sandwiches topped with Kraft American “cheese.”

served cottage cheese with wheat germ for breakfast.

made stuffed cabbage so smelly you started to gag half a mile away.

cooked steak well-well-well done.

turned liver and onions into shoe leather and burnt brown stuff.

Her only real edible dinners were pot roast and Chinese take out.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/68 "2014-06-26T16:26:58Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I don’t get threads like these. It’s always some hyperbole about how so-and-so is scum because they said something (gasp) RACIST! (or anti-semitic, homophobic, misogynistic, or any kind of “ic”) Then I click on the link, expecting some KKK Grandmaster tirade, but it’s usually some offhanded remark that endangers absolutely no one. The analysts and talking heads chime in, speculating on content and meaning, thereby increasing the hyperbole. After the dust settles, the finger-pointer and fellow offendeds have actually spouted more hate than the finger-pointed.
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> All sound and fury, signifying nothing.
> 
> So, offended person, what did you accomplish when you exposed these horrible words? Did it single-handedly change society’s views? Did you inspire the quoted to renounce their erroneous ways and dedicate their lives to eliminate hate? Or did you just do it for the OMG drama?

Whether I’m offended or not, I think it’s a good and positive thing to point out racist statements, and challenge racist statements.

Some are fine with ignoring such things, and that’s okay, but it’s also okay to point it out, challenge it, and even mock it.

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**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/69 "2014-06-26T16:30:10Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> IAfter the dust settles, the finger-pointer and fellow offendeds have actually spouted more hate than the finger-pointed.

You have a point. It really is a low blow to accuse someone of eating pastrami on white with mayonnaise and sweet relish. But it could have been worse. We could have accused him of not liking Chinese food!

😛

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/70 "2014-06-26T16:47:46Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I’m about as honky, cracker white as can be and I wouldn’t know a Jewish person if they walked up and smacked me with a gefilte fish.

If they did, there’d be disgusting fragments of predigested-looking grayish-white fish crap all over the place. Gefilte fish doesn’t hold together well as an offensive weapon.

But what do I know about haute cuisine? I actually like the Arby’s double corned beef sandwich. With mayo. :eek:

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/71 "2014-06-26T16:50:24Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> If they did, there’d be disgusting fragments of predigested-looking grayish-white fish crap all over the place. Gefilte fish doesn’t hold together well as an offensive weapon.
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> But what do I know about haute cuisine? I actually like the Arby’s double corned beef sandwich. With mayo. :eek:

That’s definitely not kosher.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/72 "2014-06-26T16:55:55Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> Thems fighting words! My goyim hubby loves my gefilte fish, as do my kids. My mom made the best homemade.
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> 🙂
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> Now chicken feet and galah on the other hand…

Offtopic, but the only gefilte fish I have easy access to is some preserved ones in a jar I can get at my local supermarket’s ethnic food aisle. If I buy that, what kind of taste should I expect? I’ve already bought matzo balls from there and I like them just fine. But something about unrefrigerated fish in a jar scares me…

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**Author:** ![Kelevra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/97f17d/32.png) [@Kelevra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kelevra)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/73 "2014-06-26T17:22:23Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> … and the brains of someone who puts mayonnaise on a pastrami sandwich.

Whoa! Whoa! Just hold on a minute! I’d rather be called a cunty-cunt than accused of that!

You could have at least put it under a spoiler tag! Now I have to find a way to remove that vile image from my mind.:mad:

eta: and I get to the second page and see you haven’t stopped! ::shudder::

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**Author:** ![Southern\_Yankee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/southern_yankee/32/2800_2.png) [@Southern\_Yankee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Southern_Yankee)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/74 "2014-06-26T17:29:35Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Offtopic, but the only gefilte fish I have easy access to is some preserved ones in a jar I can get at my local supermarket’s ethnic food aisle. If I buy that, what kind of taste should I expect? I’ve already bought matzo balls from there and I like them just fine. But something about unrefrigerated fish in a jar scares me…

The taste is very mild. We always ate it with horseradish to give it some kick. The texture might take a little getting used to, as with the jelly.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/75 "2014-06-26T17:34:00Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Offtopic, but the only gefilte fish I have easy access to is some preserved ones in a jar I can get at my local supermarket’s ethnic food aisle. If I buy that, what kind of taste should I expect? I’ve already bought matzo balls from there and I like them just fine. But something about unrefrigerated fish in a jar scares me…

I buy that stuff, too. I simmer it in its jelly with carrot slices, sliced sweet onion and parsley until warmed through and tasty. Really freshens the taste!

If you can get the frozen kind it’s even better.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/76 "2014-06-26T17:48:45Z")

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> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> It’s like making non-Swedes eat lutefisk.

Mom made lutefisk once. It didn’t turn out well. Of course we aren’t Swedish either.

> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> I actually like the Arby’s double corned beef sandwich. With mayo. :eek:

I think I’d rather have the gefilte fish.

😃

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**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/77 "2014-06-26T19:46:50Z")

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> [@YogSosoth](#):
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> Jews own the media? Good! I like the media so if the Jews own it, then I’m glad their evenhanded rule and good management has made prosperous the movie and TV industry, giving us wonderful shows like BBT and Walking Dead, and terrific movies likes Lord of the Rings and the first Transformers (though they kind of dropped the ball on the 2nd one).
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> I, for one, love our Jewish overlords, seriously, because they do a damn good job.

Is your name, by any chance, [Henry McCullers](http://www.theonion.com/articles/affable-antisemite-thinks-the-jews-are-doing-super,3007/)?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/78 "2014-06-26T20:23:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I am really stupid, though, I’ll cop to that. Or as stupid as a moderately broadly read person with an intelligence in the top percentile of IQ can be expected to be.

If the SDMB teaches us anything, it is that one can expect such a person to be very stupid indeed, at least on occasion.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/79 "2014-06-26T20:40:11Z")

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> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#):
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> Is your name, by any chance, [Henry McCullers](http://www.theonion.com/articles/affable-antisemite-thinks-the-jews-are-doing-super,3007/)?

LOL, that’s great! I’m totally that guy!

I think if one takes an honest, objective look at the world since WW2, most of us in the US can agree that things could have easily turned out a lot worse, and that this shadowy Jewish cabal is actually one of the best things to happen to the world

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/80 "2014-06-26T21:52:57Z")

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Wow! :smack: :eek: I’ve seen the SDMB jump on me when I deviate from political correctness. I’ll let you pick on me again. And BTW, anyone who thinks I’m anti-Semitic knows nothing about me.

[QUOTE=foolsguinea]  
the Jews aren’t actually running much of anything globally; they just want to feel like they’re in the halls of power internationally. I don’t think I’d fully processed that until just now.  
[/QUOTE]

This is not clearly anti-Semitic. It seems more like musing. Or is musing disallowed?

> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> This has been said before, but bigots do us a favor when they announce to the world that they are bigots.
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> In any event, if **foolsguinea** really said what he said, that’s a really…odd way of looking at things. How would it be different from any other ethnic group looking at itself in a favorable light?

This comment does not compute. If the Jews “look at themselves in a favorable light like everyone else,” we must remain mute? Pretentious Dopers certainly look at themselves in a favorable light; may I point that out?

> [@Lancia](#):
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> … boils down to, basically, “Jews really DO run Hollywood, and good on Mel for publicizing The Truth.” …
> 
> **foolsguinea** , you are a turd-sucking, worthless excuse of a human being. It _is_ kinda sad when I think about it. . . when I think that there are people in the 21st century who still hold onto these beliefs. Very, very sad.  
> …  
> “Jewish-owned media”?!

I’m not sure of the full charges against **foolsguinea** , but writing truth seems to be a main one. FWIW, _ **I detest Mel Gibson** _, but Jewish presence in Hollywood is strong. Although _ **the fact of strong Jewish presence in Hollywood management is well-known, I’ve never given the matter any thought** _ till I saw this thread. I was curious and started clicking Wikipedia.

The following people were all raised as Jews.

Sumner Murray Redstone (né Rothstein), magnate of CBS-Viacom  
Jack and Sam Warner, founders of Warner Bros.  
Samuel Goldwyn (né Szmuel Gelbfisz)  
David Geffen, cofounder of Drreamworks SKG  
Steven Spielberg, cofounder of Drreamworks SKG  
Jeffrey Katzenberg, cofounder of Drreamworks SKG  
Michael Eisner, CEO of Disney  
Bob and Harvey Weinstein, founders of Miramax  
Joseph M. Schenck, co-founder of 20th Century Pictures  
William Fox (né Fried), founder of Fox Films  
Adolph Zukor, founder of Paramount  
Jesse L. Lasky, co-founder of Paramount  
Marcus Loew, founder of MGM  
Louis B. Mayer (né Lazar Meir), founder of Mayer Pictures (later MGM)  
David O. Selznick, producer of Gone with the Wind  
Joel and Ethan Coen, producers of Fargo  
Sherry Lansing (née Duhl), CEO of Paramount etc.

I was startled! Almost every click led to “Jewish.” The only clicks that didn’t were for Darryl F. Zanuck and Cecil B. DeMille; the latter had a Jewish mother.

I draw no inference. But watching the Board pretend Hollywood is not “dominated by Jews” is amusing.

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