# foolsguinea, get your worthless self down here. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 25, 2014, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617 "2014-06-25T16:13:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/121 "2014-06-28T00:23:14Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Whoa, when was this? In a thread about the Clippers, after the owner was saying all the hateful stuff. I can’t remember the name of the doper. It was a long name. Helpful, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/122 "2014-06-28T02:17:52Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > No, I _was_ startled. The huge preponderance of Jews “running” Hollywood is a fact; I felt like spending a few minutes confirming it for myself, and 20 out of 23 names I clicked showed “Jewish” at Wikipedia. Well, I certainly don’t blamed you for being startled. I was positively _shocked_ at all the Jews on that list. Why, even though most of them were dead, that’s still one heck of a lot of Jews! And the huge preponderance of Jews (not that we can tell who exactly in the much decentralized world of entertainment are Jews and who isn’t (probably they’ve Americanized their names or something)) is certainly worth discussing. Some people want to sweep it under the rug, but we have a right to wonder why there’s such a huge preponderance of jews and what it signifies. Really, who can imagine that there’d be so many Jews and not have it count for _something_, know what I mean? > [@septimus](#): > > Why are there so many Jews running Hollywood and does it matter? Right, maybe it doesn’t matter and maybe it’s of _critical importance_. But we’re not going to get anywhere not wondering and theorizing and discussing it, in fact there should be a _national conversation_ about Jews running or not running Hollywood. That’s the way I feel and no one should be called an anti-Semite for just asking questions, even if no one called them that because we all know that’s what it’s all about really, know what I mean? ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/123 "2014-06-28T02:45:29Z")
What I really want to know is why there are so many dead Jews running Hollywood. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/124 "2014-06-28T03:07:04Z")
That’s why they made _Dead Poets Society_. It’s an in-joke. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/125 "2014-06-28T04:23:54Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Whoa, when was this? > [@jsgoddess](#): > > In a thread about the Clippers, after the owner was saying all the hateful stuff. I can’t remember the name of the doper. It was a long name. Helpful, huh? **chicagowhitesox1173**. He’s a dumbfuck. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/126 "2014-06-28T04:57:23Z")
He’s a Sox fan. That should have been enough to tell anyone that he’s a dumbfuck. -Superdude, proud Cub fan since 1984. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/127 "2014-06-28T06:43:08Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **chicagowhitesox1173**. He’s a dumbfuck. Yes, he does sound, “special”. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/128 "2014-06-28T07:47:40Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > What the fuck is this nonsense? Is this some kind of new tactic- trying to pre-empt accusations of bigotry by posting Dada-style gibberish? ‘I am not a bigot millipede oak sapphire raincoat lonely bells.’ First they came for the Dadaists and I said nothing, for I was not an stuffed aardvark wearing a corsage of taps on a burning harpsichord. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/129 "2014-06-28T11:48:44Z")
> [@Penfeather](#): > > First they came for the Dadaists and I said nothing, for I was not an stuffed aardvark wearing a corsage of taps on a burning harpsichord. X-L-N!!! Thanks for my biggest laugh in days! ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/130 "2014-06-28T17:27:07Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **chicagowhitesox1173**. He’s a dumbfuck. Was it him? Or was it [Stink Fish Pot?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17331804&postcount=69) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/131 "2014-06-28T18:28:57Z")
I was thinking it might have been that dude who came here from the one racist website, and started a thread in the Pit saying, “Hi, I’m a racist, ask me anything”, then got all butthurt when people flamed him. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/132 "2014-06-28T19:00:43Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Was it him? Or was it [Stink Fish Pot?](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=17331804&postcount=69) Disregard this. I just started rereading that NBA/Sterling thread, and got to Soxboy’s participation. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/133 "2014-06-28T21:02:49Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > You’re putting on an act, right? Long running joke pretending not to be a good person? Please? > > I would never “understand” that sort of behavior. Nor have I ever made a racist/sexist/demeaning comment while drunk I would not make while sober. The only thing that changes is my volume and intensity. The closest I’ve ever come to this is telling my college roommate he was being stupid (in public places, very loudly, and at length) and to just ask the girl out already - they’re married now. > > It’s horseshit that alcohol is some kind of extenuating factor. I’ve never bought into “apologies” for things said while drunk. People aren’t sorry they said hurtful things. They’re sorry (1) they got caught, (2) that other people aren’t as racist/sexist/whatever as they believe, and (3) that “right thinking” people aren’t standing up for them more. You’re way off base here. Are you seriously saying that to understand is to extenuate? It is nothing of the sort, it is simply to understand. Understanding does not preclude condemnation and it’s quite bizarre that you should think it does. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2014, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/134 "2014-06-28T23:03:11Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > X-L-N!!! Thanks for my biggest laugh in days! There’s probably also a Pointillist joke to be had somewhere. Then they came for the Pointillists and still I said nothing, for I hadn’t been spotted. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/135 "2014-06-30T16:51:58Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I can’t remember the name of the doper. It was a long name. Probably not me. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/136 "2014-06-30T19:14:32Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > You’re way off base here. Are you seriously saying that to understand is to extenuate? It is nothing of the sort, it is simply to understand. Understanding does not preclude condemnation and it’s quite bizarre that you should think it does. Bullshit. I dislike repeating myself, but this is simply a variant on one of the classic defenses of these types of speech, and it’s incredibly cliched. As I noted earlier: > [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > ETA: Oh, and “he’s just telling ‘the truth’. That’s not antisemitic/racist/whatever” is one of the most cliched defenses ever. It’s almost as bad as “I’m not racist. I’ve got minority friends.” ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/137 "2014-06-30T22:38:00Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Bullshit. > > I dislike repeating myself, but this is simply a variant on one of the classic defenses of these types of speech, and it’s incredibly cliched. As I noted earlier: What does this have to do with understanding why someone said something? Saying you understand why someone said something is NOT a defense of what that person said. Or are we using English differently here? Understand: Have knowledge of why something was done. Condone: Agree with something that was done. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2014, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/138 "2014-06-30T22:51:20Z")
Indeed. If you don’t understand how your enemies think, how can you defeat them? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/139 "2014-07-01T16:31:07Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Indeed. If you don’t understand how your enemies think, how can you defeat them? The first dozen times or so, it can be helpful to have examples of how bigoted dimwits think. After a few hundred or thousand repetitions, any usefulness declines dramatically. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617/140 "2014-07-01T16:40:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Indeed. If you don’t understand how your enemies think, how can you defeat them? You think the people who hate your people came to their views through\* thought\*? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foolsguinea-get-your-worthless-self-down-here/691617.md?page=8)