The difference is that the NFC East isn’t it’s own separate entity from the NFL in the way that the English Premier League and the Spanish La Liga are. Jerry Jones can’t get together with the owners of the Giants, Eagles, and WFT to make their own separate club with a different trophy. The structure of European football seems to make direct comparisons to the North American professional leagues difficult 
. I think the closest comparison we have here is probably college football.
If these Super teams really do get banned from the Champions League, I think we are looking at a Bayern dynasty in CL play for years, perhaps decades, to come.
When the Prem was formed, it didn’t legislate immunity from relegation to any of its founding clubs.
Yes, the domestic league races have become pretty boring and it’s why I don’t oppose the formation of a new, highest tiered league in Europe. What I object to is immunity from relegation for any of the 12-15 founding clubs. Just win enough to stay up, you Arsenal and Spurs wankers.
It’s pretty important to me that promotions and relegations are decided on the field instead of in the league boadrooms.
It’s very appealing to me the way Champions League decides its annual participants. Basically, finish high enough in your domestic league (places vary according to league strength) and you can battle for supremacy of Europe. College basketball could well take lessons here and do away with “selection committees” whose main job is determining if the eighth place team in Conference A is more deserving than the fifth place team in Conference C, a futile and annoying exercise.
What do you think the existing Champions League is?
It is comprised of the top teams from each European League and structured so that pretty much every game carries importance and jeopardy.
What probably doesn’t suit the big clubs is that they have to earn their seat at the top table every year. You drop your form you are out next year and that place is given to a team…any team…that can string together the necessary results.
I like that structure and see no real reason for wholesale change. As proposed, the super-league adds nothing.
The English League pyramid structure that is allegedly so historically culturally important is a myth.
For generations the only way a team could get into the FA old leagues was to be elected, that is how we ended up with 4 league divisions as the number of applicant expanded - and that’s how it stayed for generations.
It also meant that no team could be relegated right out of the top 4 pro league divisions unless it was approved by the chairs of all the other league clubs and that decision had to be unanimous.
Certain clubs were at the bottom of the whole league structure for year after year, no chair would vote for relegation to the amateur leagues because it was seen as undermining their own interests - after all if one club can be relegated, so can others.
It became so embarrassing, and a couple of clubs also went bankrupt completely such as Accrington Stanley and Bradford Park Avenue that a very small number were relegated, or replacements were elected from the nascent regional leagues - but you are only looking at about half a dozen in 40 years or so.
In the concept of relegation and promotion, this was transparently unjust - lots of the 3rd and 4th division league teams were professional in name only, and plenty of amateur teams were better funded, had better paid professional players and more robust finances, along with better facilities.
This was thrown into stark relief in the pro-am FA cup, where it was not unusual to see so-called amateur teams progressing to the later stages and the lower division pro teams soon knocked out of the competition early on - the evidence that the difference in talent between top class amateur teams and low end pro teams was pretty much nil.
It wasn’t until sometime around 2005 that we actually had relegation and promotion playoffs to the pro league - so that’s around 15 years of ‘tradition and history’ of the pyramid of English football.
People have very short memories, and the proposal of this Euro Super League is to have a core of X number of teams and a make up invitation for Y more who can be dropped through whatever system will be implemented.
So if you have a team that qualifies for Euro Super League and does well, and then you have a team such as Tottenham that is continually performing badly and not pulling their weight commercially it is obvious what will happen.
I’m curious as someone who doesn’t follow this closely, how often does a really big money (like multi-billion valuation) Premiere League team face relegation? If they did poorly enough would they actually be relegated, or would the league find a way to prevent it? From a pure money perspective having a team with like a Dallas Cowboys or New York Yankees style economic imprint have to spend a season out of league and be replaced with presumably a much lower money team would be bad for the league as a whole.
Well, Chelsea already wants out.
That’s kind of how it worked for a while in LigaMX (Mexico’s top league). A few cases of the relegated team buying the promoted team and “moving” the promoted team to the relegated team’s stadium (and moving the relegated team to the promoted team’s stadium) and exchanging players. Basically it was a farce.
Anyways, LigaMX is taking a ‘break’ from promotion/relegation these days.
It would be very rare for a billion Euro valued club to be relegated.
They are dropping like flies, the proposal has not been popular with most fans, with Chelsea fans having a demonstration over it.
It does happen to big clubs but not often. Legendary Argentine club River Plate was demoted several years back. Scottish powerhouse Rangers were demoted too but because of financials.
Multi-billion has not happened yet but it could at some point (if Arsenal hadn’t recovered their poor form earlier this season, it was at least on the, er, table). And yes, absolutely a club in that position would be relegated, there would be no question of them being able to immediately buy their way back in.
Probably the biggest club to be relegated in recent years was Newcastle United, also the aforementioned Leeds United went from competing in the Champions League to relegation in the space of just a few seasons. Everton won titles in the 1980s and came pretty close to relegation more than once in the 90s. And in reverse we have Leicester City, who about 20 years ago were relegated (having never challenged at the top of the league) and then 15 years later won it all. No doubt the system isn’t perfect but it does have several examples of this happening.
Didn’t one of the big Italian clubs get demoted due to a points punishment. AC Milan or Juve?
Oh, here it is: Calciopoli - Wikipedia
It was longer ago than I thought - 2006.
Wonder if they got what they wanted all along …?
Night of the long knives anyone?
Good. There is plenty of anger to go round and if the scheme is dead I’m going to enjoy the fallout immensely. Almost as much fun as the Blatter situation.
I’m laughing my ass off, the idiotic Super League is totally crumbling only two days after it was announced. I’m glad that the opposition by the fans caused this, and I’m also proud that the German clubs all vehemently opposed this idea from the start. I think after this disaster has cleared up, the 12 clubs will be regarded as the shameful twelve…
I think we’ll see a race to arse-cover and back-pedal as much and as quickly as possible. Which club will want to remain the last one standing with the super-league vultures?
lol
what a farce. well done bundesliga & ligue 1.
But they just introduced playoffs in 2005, not promotion/relegation? I remember it always being 3 up and 3 down, regardless of what format they used to get there.
I’m constantly following a news ticker on kicker.de. Latest news: Arsenal, Hotspurs, Liverpool and ManU out. Good riddance, Super league.
Well, I didn’t think it was going to fly, but I figured they’d get at least a few weeks of negotiating leverage out of it.
They lasted only 18% as long as Anthony Scaramucci.