# Footie Support Group: 25 days and counting . . .

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 22, 2003, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120 "2003-07-22T12:08:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/241 "2003-08-29T11:59:47Z")

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I don’t think so. Is he the sort of chap I would know?

In fact I am sure I don’t know anyone called clive - Does he have a nomme de football or nickname?

Most of the chaps I used to hangaround with were essex/herts boys.

There were an awful lot of us though.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/242 "2003-08-29T12:20:16Z")

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Well he was certainly one of the chaps way back. Someone told me recently he still goes.

I remember him in the Charlton goalmouth during play in the season we went down. Millwall decided to introduce themselves prior to an official fixtue and it spilt over. All sorts of nonsense in the netting . . .

Nice bloke though, Clive. Big blonde-haired lump. How about Brendon and that guy with the squashed nose. Ok, and the one-armed black guy, Sammy ?

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/243 "2003-08-29T12:36:47Z")

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For anyone interested:

Full first round draw of the UEFA Cup

**Dundee** v Perugia  
\*\*Newcastle \*\*  
Genclerbirligi v **Blackburn**  
**Liverpool** v Olimpija Ljubljana  
**Man City** v Lokeren  
**Southampton** v Steaua Bucharest  
AIK Stockholm v Valencia  
Dinamo Bucharest v Shakhtar  
Maccabi Haifa v Publikum  
Torpedo Moscow v CSKA Sofia  
Cementarnica v Lens  
Benfica v La Louviere  
Panionios v Nordsjaelland  
Udinese v Salzburg  
Puchov v Barcelona  
Dinamo Zagreb v MTK Hungaria  
Hapoel Rumat Gan v Levski Sofia  
Kaiserslautern v Teplice  
Sartid v Slavia Prague  
Villarreal v Trabzonspar  
Grasshoppers v Hadjuk Split  
Hertha Berlin v Groclin  
Valerenga v Grazer AK  
Zimbru Chisinau v Aris Salonika  
FC Copenhagen v Ferencvaros  
Varteks v Debrecen  
Hamburg v Dnipro  
Bordeaux v Petrzalka  
Roma v Vardar  
Spartak Moscow v Esbjerg FB  
Wisla Krakow v NEC Nijmegen  
Leiria v Molde  
Austria Vienna v Borussia Dortmund  
Auxerre v Xamax  
Ventspils v Rosenborg  
Gaziantepspor v Hapoel Tel Aviv  
Odense v Red Star Belgrade  
Sporting Lisbon v Malmo  
Utrecht v Zilina  
Metalurh v Parma  
MyPa v Sochaux  
Schalke v Kamen Ingrad  
Mallorca v Appoel  
Feyenoord v Karnten  
PAOK Salonika v Lyn  
Malatyaspor v Basel  
Brondby v Viktoria Zizkov

- bit tough some of those draws for the local crews given how much rubbish there is in the draw.

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**Author:** ![owlstretchingtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/958977/32.png) [@owlstretchingtime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/owlstretchingtime)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2003, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/244 "2003-08-29T13:17:52Z")

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> \*Originally posted by London\_Calling \*  
> \*\*Well he was certainly one of the chaps way back. Someone told me recently he still goes.
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> I remember him in the Charlton goalmouth during play in the season we went down. Millwall decided to introduce themselves prior to an official fixtue and it spilt over. All sorts of nonsense in the netting . . .
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> Nice bloke though, Clive. Big blonde-haired lump. How about Brendon and that guy with the squashed nose. Ok, and the one-armed black guy, Sammy ? \*\*

Are you talking about the game against Millwall when they were in the first division and they tried to take the shelf?

That was a fun day out. West Ham tried to do it the week after too. That was the closest the shelf ever got to being “taken”

“that guy with the squashed nose” is not that big a help under the circs…is he pals with the fellah with the beer gut?

I am sure I would rememebr a one armed black lad, all the black lads I knew (Sean L and his mob) were fully armed. In all senses. Still, back then there were three big firms - Yids; N17 and the THFC Boys (shelf; park lane and paxton respectively), plus an all black firm that had a very non PC name.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/245 "2003-08-31T00:44:15Z")

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Well, today was my first visit to Glasgow in the new season, and what a visit it was. The last time Livingston visited it was such a dire game that the worst player in hoops (Momo Sylla, natch) got MOTM just for accidentally knocking the ball into the goal, so to say I was looking forward to this game would have been a slight overstatement. But we had a comfortable 5-1 win, and I do mean “comfortable” - we could easily have had a few more, and that’s not even counting the missed penalty. Livi were poor, but we played some great stuff.

Highlights galore in this game: newest defender Varga finally coming into form, Lennon coming back to form, Johnny Hartson (he’s got no hair, but we don’t care) coming back, another outstanding performance from Boy Wonder Miller, decent shifts from even the average/donkey players and a Larsson hat-trick to boot. Reminded me why I’m a Celtic supporter, so it did.

Still won’t excuse the board for not signing any new players, though :mad:

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2003, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/246 "2003-08-31T10:44:32Z")

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Sounds enourmous fun and I’m genuinely pleased for you **ruadh** , but in a speechless kind of way. I just don’t know what to say about yesterday.

It’s times like this I remember why I can’t really buy a season ticket. I know it’s cowardly but I just can’t take that kind of disappointment knowing there’s another 17 games to go, and whether it’s £4 or £40 a pop. Just desperately disappointed . .

Anyway, enjoy Larsson while you can!

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/247 "2003-09-01T09:29:35Z")

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**Owl** sed:

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> … prior to watching the boys spank fulham

Yes, what a spanking that turned out to be. CFC prototypes indeed. So how _is_ that as-good-as-any-in-the-premiership strikeforce working out for you? Remind me how many they’ve got between them.

Oooh, with your OTT CFC hatred (particularly ironic for a hooligan to moan about another team’s hooligan followings), this season must really, really hurt. Even more than the Lillywhite’s last ten shitty seasons have.

pan

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/248 "2003-09-01T10:48:04Z")

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We’ve taken Michael Gray on a 4 month loan… and there are alot of rumors about Rivaldo. Probably tosh but it certainly put a samba in my step for the last few days.  
and Liam Miller is class.

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**Author:** ![ruadh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d2c977/32.png) [@ruadh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ruadh)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/249 "2003-09-01T13:40:04Z")

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I can’t believe anybody seriously thinks we’re gonna get Rivaldo.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/250 "2003-09-01T14:54:12Z")

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Yeah, Dwaine Rivaldo. Currently plays for Chessington United.

😃

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/251 "2003-09-01T15:31:54Z")

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**kabbes** – you’re getting ‘smugger’ by the week. Can’t blame you, how long has it been, a hundred and how many years . . . .?

Just posting to say the window shuts in 20 minutes (until January. Obviously) and Everton have picked up three players today. Lots of other stuff seemingly afoot. No sign of Rivaldo yet, though. Either of ‘em 😃

[BBC Premiership link](http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/default.stm)

Bits and pieces in Jockville. Celtic have picked up Michael Gray on lan - I feel I should know him, but not biblically ?

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**Author:** ![SentientMeat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/43a26b/32.png) [@SentientMeat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SentientMeat)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/252 "2003-09-01T15:35:16Z")

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> Michael Gray on lan

Ian who?

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**Author:** ![Crusoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/49beb7/32.png) [@Crusoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crusoe)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/253 "2003-09-01T15:47:19Z")

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Phht. You can keep your Rivaldos and Grays. We’ve signed the mighty Calvin Zola Makongo. Yes, really. On loan, no less. Bet you’re jealous now.

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**Author:** ![kabbes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e99b99/32.png) [@kabbes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kabbes)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/254 "2003-09-01T16:01:24Z")

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Ah, the joys of being smug. The joys of being anything other than hair-tearingly frustrated, actually.

It won’t last. Make hay whilst the son whines, and all that. Make way for my smuggitude!

pan

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/255 "2003-09-01T16:21:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SentientMeat \*  
> Ian who?

‘loan’ - I’ve got new reading glasses that affect my keyboarding. Plus I’m dyslexic, and a Spurs fan . . .

There’s a thread about it in IMHO.  
I see Spurs just dipped under the tape and did a swap with Charlton for a month (not Managers unfortunately, just a player going each way).  
‘Makonga’ - sounds like a Scottish dance. Got to be some good songs there **Crusoe** , might be a little like the band playing on the Titanic but got to keep the spirits up!

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/256 "2003-09-01T16:22:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ruadh \*  
> \*\*I can’t believe anybody seriously thinks we’re gonna get Rivaldo. \*\*

I didn’t take it seriously, but I’m allowed to dream, right? 😃

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/257 "2003-09-01T16:25:35Z")

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Makongo delightfully rhymes with Um Bongo. And he comes from the Congo.

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**Author:** ![London\_Calling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@London\_Calling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/London_Calling)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/258 "2003-09-01T16:26:35Z")

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btw, does that Makonga put his right leg in, his right leg out, in, out . . .

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**Author:** ![TwistofFate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cdc98d/32.png) [@TwistofFate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TwistofFate)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/259 "2003-09-01T16:27:32Z")

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Michael Gray, ex-england left back. Should have been on his way to Marseilles, but transfer “hit a snag”. On a 4 month loan to us before heading over to Olympique.

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**Author:** ![fortytwo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f9ae1b/32.png) [@fortytwo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fortytwo)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2003, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/footie-support-group-25-days-and-counting/190120/260 "2003-09-01T22:00:07Z")

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Well it may not last, but Swansea are top of Div.3.  
Can’t stop scoring at the moment, unlike last season. After Mansfield had 6 players booked and 2 sent off, Keith Curle (Mansfield manager) blamed the ref. for “losing it.” This, after Izzy (Taffy) Iriekpen was bitten by their striker.

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