# For All Mankind (spoilers)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** apple\
**Created:** [November 4, 2019, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999 "2019-11-04T19:55:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/241 "2024-01-02T22:12:13Z")

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That sounds like a better use of resources than trying to bring the materials back to Earth.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/242 "2024-01-02T23:52:24Z")

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The economics might not be what you think if a) iridium is that valuable and b) you got ships going back and forth anyway. Heck, Miles is getting rich off of bootlegged Mars rocks.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2024, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/243 "2024-01-02T23:58:57Z")

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Miles isn’t paying the actual cost of transporting the Mars rocks.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/244 "2024-01-03T02:33:47Z")

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> [@MeanJoe](#):
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> I hope Ed doesn’t die or give his life heroically in some half-assed redemption.

Oh, I bet that’s exactly what will happen. They’re not going to kill Kelly, either; she’s going to make some major discovery out at the crater. Margo will defect back to the USA and face the music. Dev will buy Happy Valley and declare himself emperor for life.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/245 "2024-01-03T02:45:06Z")

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I think Dev said that he wasn’t planning to return to Earth. Was there a reason for that? Is he dying, perhaps?

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/246 "2024-01-03T02:58:57Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Is he dying, perhaps?

I did actually find it interesting how quickly he acquiesced on Kelly’s request to bring her son and how relatively interested he seems in Alex’s health, so maybe?

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/247 "2024-01-03T03:31:02Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> I did actually find it interesting how quickly he acquiesced on Kelly’s request to bring her son and how relatively interested he seems in Alex’s health, so maybe?

I think it’s more a reflection of Dev’s relationship with his own mother, which we got to see so conveniently only a few minutes beforehand. He hates that his mother left him and his father and he practically breaks down when Kelly asks to take Alex with her to Mars.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2024, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/248 "2024-01-03T03:31:46Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I think Dev said that he wasn’t planning to return to Earth. Was there a reason for that? Is he dying, perhaps?

I think he’s going full Dr. Manhattan.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/249 "2024-01-05T05:05:56Z")

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Great, an episode of mostly filler, people being crappy to each other, and crappy equipment. (I would think by this time in space exploration they would build equipment that could survive a single drop of water.)

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**Author:** ![MeanJoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanjoe/32/5693_2.png) [@MeanJoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanJoe)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/250 "2024-01-05T18:18:26Z")

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Going to spoiler this one…

1. KGB guy shoots Sergei in the right temple of his head.
2. KGB guy puts gun in Sergei’s right hand to get fingerprints on the gun.
3. KGB then moves the gun to Sergei’s LEFT hand, positioning the gun in his grip of his left hand, and leaves the room.

WTF? If it is supposed to look like a suicide and he shot himself on the right side of his head, the gun would NOT be in his left hand. The KGB guy got the first part right, but why did he then put the gun into the other hand? You can’t really easily or realistically hold a gun in your left hand and shoot yourself in the right temple. What did I miss here?

Also, this show is f-cking stupid at this point for a bunch of other reasons.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2024, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/251 "2024-01-05T18:26:59Z")

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The answer to your question is probably, somehow, iridium. In that world iridium is apparently as important as zinc.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/U1iCZpFMYd0/hqdefault.jpg "The Simpsons - A World Without Zinc") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1iCZpFMYd0)

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2024, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/252 "2024-01-12T09:33:19Z")

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I’m really surprised   
that Danielle survived being shot. I thought for sure last episode when she was talking about going back to Earth to be with her family that she was dead meat. And it looks like Kelly at the crater really was wasted time.

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2024, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/253 "2024-01-15T01:03:20Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I half expected the disgruntled Helios workers to start chanting _beltalowda_.

I just caught up (yesterday) and watched the finale today. I had been having similar thoughts. Maybe helped along by watching Season 3 of _Billions_ at the same time.

FWIW, I liked this season and thought it was a big improvement over season 3, which was heavily weighed down by Danny’s cringe spiral. I can’t say I like the positive framing being given to a billionaire taking over Mars and committing the largest theft in human history (_For All Mankind_? More like _From All Mankind_, amiright?). If there is a season 5, I hope they pivot away from that and show him going full Elon Musk (who is also a piece of shit, and should get his comeuppance sooner rather than later).

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/254 "2024-01-16T08:31:59Z")

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The biggest question for season 5 is — does mankind get a 4th Star Trek series by then?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/255 "2024-04-17T18:06:28Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> If there is a season 5

There is. And a spin-off.

> **[‘For All Mankind’ Renewed For Season 5; Apple Expands Universe With Spinoff...](https://deadline.com/2024/04/for-all-mankind-renewed-season-5-apple-tv-spinoff-series-star-city-1235887717/amp/)**
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> Apple TV+ is expanding the For All Mankind universe with a new spinoff series, Star City

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**Author:** ![ASL\_v2.0](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asl_v2.0/32/3525_2.png) [@ASL\_v2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ASL_v2.0)\
**Post date:** [April 17, 2024, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/256 "2024-04-17T23:08:59Z")

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Well I’ll be. Fingers crossed the Earthers crush the Martians before they can spin off and give rise to Belters. Because of course, once the Belters step onto the scene, I’ll have no choice but to throw all my support behind them.

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**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/257 "2024-04-18T02:01:49Z")

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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#):
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> Because of course, once the Belters step onto the scene, I’ll have no choice but to throw all my support behind them.

There was a point last season where Earth was giving unreasonable orders to Mars and I started calling Houston staff welwalas. I understand that the Martians are technically also welwala, but still…

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/258 "2024-04-18T02:32:53Z")

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They could repurpose the captured, occupied asteroid as the counterweight for a Martian space elevator. There could be a conflict of Belt vs. Suspenders.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/259 "2024-04-18T06:21:08Z")

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> [@Zakalwe](#):
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> There was a point last season where Earth was giving unreasonable orders to Mars and I started calling Houston staff welwalas

Don’t give me that inyalowda kaka felota, sasa-ke?

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2024, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-mankind-spoilers/842999/260 "2024-04-18T17:53:58Z")

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Well, I am glad to see the show is getting renewed. Generally fascinated to see where they take the plots going forward.

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