# for all you France haters out there

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037 "2003-03-25T15:59:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elfje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19b73/32.png) [@elfje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfje)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/1 "2003-03-25T15:59:47Z")

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i’ve found this.  
No doubt it’ll cheer you up.

[http://9mm.com/~icer/ha.jpg](http://9mm.com/~icer/ha.jpg)

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**Author:** ![FatBaldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecd19e/32.png) [@FatBaldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FatBaldGuy)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/2 "2003-03-25T16:19:05Z")

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I’ve seen this attributed to Donald Rumsfeld, Norman Schwartzkopf, and “a highly placed defense official”, but whoever said it, I agree…

**"Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordion."**

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**Author:** ![Gulo\_gulo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@Gulo\_gulo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gulo_gulo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/3 "2003-03-25T16:59:53Z")

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They’ve just never seen me call in an elk with an accordian. 😃

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/4 "2003-03-25T17:22:31Z")

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> No doubt it’ll cheer you up.

And no doubt you’ll find yourself less cheery when you realize I’ve moved this to the Pit with the rest of the stupid French-bashing.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/5 "2003-03-25T17:26:46Z")

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That’s dumb.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/6 "2003-03-25T17:59:26Z")

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So I guess the French opposed us when we went against the Taliban in Afghanistan? Is that what this is supposed to parody? I don’t remember them having a problem with that operation.

Surely the creator of that pic isn’t linking the war with Iraq to 9/11, for which there isn’t a shred of evidence?

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/7 "2003-03-25T18:07:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by friedo \*  
> \*\*That’s dumb. \*\*

Unbelievably so. This kind of mindless tripe does a great disservice to critical thinking. Buncha crap.

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**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/8 "2003-03-25T20:23:35Z")

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This elf like France (well, most of the time).

France gave us fine wine, fine cuisine, lots of help during the Revolutionary War, the Tour de France and the Statue of Liberty. And easy to make fun of snooty waiters and poofy dogs- comic gold baby.

So what if they don’t support our little war. We really didn’t support them on Algeria. And the Germans, Russians and Saudis all are bad mouthing us too-- so where’s the hate for them?

:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/9 "2003-03-25T21:06:30Z")

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Jed Babbin said it, not Schwartzkopf or Rumsfeld.

[http://www.snopes2.com/quotes/babbin.htm](http://www.snopes2.com/quotes/babbin.htm)

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/10 "2003-03-25T23:24:51Z")

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Ha ha! The deaths of hundreds and the destruction of an international monument sure is _funny_, because they’re _French_, and the French _suck_, so it’s okay to laugh at them dying horribly!

Not at all like the Palestinians dancing in the streets after nine-eleven. Nosirree.

:wally

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/11 "2003-03-25T23:29:24Z")

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Sir, apparently you’re living in the mirror-mirror universe where this event did indeed take place.  
It’s humor, tasteless or otherwise, not fact.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/12 "2003-03-25T23:30:24Z")

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No reasonable person wishes physical harm on the French. Lord knows they have inflicted enough embarassment on themselves.

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/13 "2003-03-25T23:34:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by elfje \*  
> \*\*i’ve found this.  
> No doubt it’ll cheer you up.
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> [http://9mm.com/~icer/ha.jpg](http://9mm.com/~icer/ha.jpg) \*\*

Fuck you for assuming that would cheer anybody up.

:rolleyes: [sup]ASS![/sup]

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/14 "2003-03-25T23:37:17Z")

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That’s one of the crappiest Photoshoppings I’ve ever seen.

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**Author:** ![Who\_me\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@Who\_me\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Who_me_1)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/15 "2003-03-26T00:05:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Brutus \*  
> \*\*No reasonable person wishes physical harm on the French. Lord knows they have inflicted enough embarassment on themselves. \*\*

Yeah, I heard they _like_ Jerry Lewis…

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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/16 "2003-03-26T00:29:57Z")

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And they folded faster than Superman on laundry day when faced with the German military machine.

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**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/17 "2003-03-26T00:35:14Z")

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You know,I rarely use this kind of language,but I think it’s fitting now.  
**FUCK YOU** \*\* elfje \*\*

This country is made of many different cultures,and I personally feel that you are as UNpatriotic as they come. HOW DARE YOU?!!! How dare you spread such hate and intolerance? WHAT THE FUCK is the deal with this crap? They disagree,so what? They have that right. (The Constitution protects such things you know.)  
Is it that you are so hugely arrogant,that you think that these (the rights the Constitution outlines) are things that should only be protected within this country,and only for it’s citizens? (All those who have engaged in French bashing,etc.)

I remember the horror,and the sadness of September 11,and would not wish that on anyone else. This is beyond the pale. I cannot believe that you are human,because you find such a thing entertaining enough to post.  
I thought I had gotten a good point across here: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169419](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=169419)  
Guess I was wrong. (Apologies for resurrecting that offal,I felt it was needful.)

In any case,to put it as my grandfather would have. \*\* elfje \*\* You aren’t fit for company. Get out of my sight!!!

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/18 "2003-03-26T00:42:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by raisinbread \*  
> \*\*And they folded faster than Superman on laundry day when faced with the German military machine. \*\*

Gee whiz Wally I never heard that one before. :rolleyes:

Go read an old French bashing thread to get your fucking schoolgirl giggles reading stale cliches, and stop wasting hamsters with piece of shit non-threads like this one.

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**Author:** ![truthbot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@truthbot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/truthbot)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/19 "2003-03-26T00:54:35Z")

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I didn’t hate France before I clicked on the OP’s link. I don’t hate France after clicking on the OP’s link.

Linking to a photo that depicts the Eiffel Tower being hit by the Concorde, _ala_ 9/11, is in poor taste. IMHO.

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**Author:** ![scablet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@scablet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scablet)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2003, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-all-you-france-haters-out-there/164037/20 "2003-03-26T02:01:04Z")

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Goddamnit… I must have slept in the day Iraq crashed a plane into one of our buildings. ☹ How was the coverage?

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