# For Believers: article on Rapture. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [February 24, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090 "2014-02-24T12:26:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/21 "2014-02-24T13:27:34Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I read your hate-filled website, and I think it’s a hate-filled website. > edited to add: Why? Because it is filled with hate. Now you’d have to prove that it’s all causeless. In fact this means watching hours of videos on the site, finding the lies and proving otherwise. Opinions don’t matter. Besides, do you know what sticking to the subject mean ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/22 "2014-02-24T13:30:24Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Now you’d have to prove that it’s all causeless. In fact this means watching hours of videos on the site, finding the lies and proving otherwise. Opinions don’t matter. Besides, do you know what sticking to the subject mean ? Do you know what a debate is? State your case concerning this website, and we’ll have more to talk about. “Look! A video!!” isn’t a debate. ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/23 "2014-02-24T13:30:31Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I disagree utterly because it’s based on ignorance. On what basis do you find it, “obviously logical and consistant”? On my common sense and cohesion in the Bible verses presented and interpreted. You seem just to pop by, after seeing a controversial thread about religion. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/24 "2014-02-24T13:31:23Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Now you’d have to prove that it’s all causeless. In fact this means watching hours of videos on the site, finding the lies and proving otherwise. Opinions don’t matter. Besides, do you know what sticking to the subject mean ? How this works is you have yet to explain to us why YOU think it’s valid. We’ve already stated our position. You have yet to state your own and WHY you hold these views. ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/25 "2014-02-24T13:32:54Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > How this works is you have yet to explain to us why YOU think it’s valid. We’ve already stated our position. You have yet to state your own and WHY you hold these views. We won’t discuss everything. It’s about a particular subject: Rapture. Don’t you really understand this ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/26 "2014-02-24T13:34:22Z")
> [@karol](#): > > We won’t discuss everything. It’s about a particular subject: Rapture. Don’t you really understand this ? It’s your “debate”. What part of your link do you find valid, and why? ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/27 "2014-02-24T13:36:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > It’s your “debate”. What part of your link do you find valid, and why? Whole of it. Why ? I already explained. Besides I wouldn’t bother to translate the article from Polish if I didn’t agree with it. So far after a dozen posts of struggling, no opinion about the article. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/28 "2014-02-24T13:37:25Z")
No, I do not. Please explain Rapture to me and your basis for believing this event is going to come to pass in precisely the manner you belive it will? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/29 "2014-02-24T13:38:33Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Now you’d have to prove that it’s all causeless. In fact this means watching hours of videos on the site, finding the lies and proving otherwise. Opinions don’t matter. Besides, do you know what sticking to the subject mean ? Are you saying hate is OK, as long as it’s for a reason? ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/30 "2014-02-24T13:38:59Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > No, I do not. Please explain Rapture to me and your basis for believing this event is going to come to pass in precisely the manner you belive it will? Did you read the article ? Whole of it. Now I am expecting your opinion. The rapture in the way I understand it is described in the article. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/31 "2014-02-24T13:39:16Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Whole of it. Why ? I already explained. Besides I wouldn’t bother to translate the article from Polish if I didn’t agree with it. So far after a dozen posts of struggling, no opinion about the article. A number of posters have stated their opinion on the subject already. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/32 "2014-02-24T13:40:30Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Did you read the article ? Whole of it. Now I am expecting your opinion. The rapture in the way I understand it is described in the article. Do you believe that you are one of the “real” white Jews? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/33 "2014-02-24T13:45:52Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Did you read the article ? Whole of it. Now I am expecting your opinion. The rapture in the way I understand it is described in the article. I read it. I’ve also read the the fairytales of Hans Christian Anderson. I find both to be works of fiction and imagination. But at least the fairytales were entertaining when I was a child. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/34 "2014-02-24T13:46:21Z")
> [@karol](#): > > Now you’d have to prove that it’s all causeless. In fact this means watching hours of videos on the site, finding the lies and proving otherwise. No one is going to spend _hours_ looking through a website just so they can argue with someone on the Internet. ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/35 "2014-02-24T13:49:25Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Do you believe that you are one of the “real” white Jews? What ? Today’s Israel is not a Chosen Nation as they persist. Do you support their politics ? Do you know that they have the largest amount of nuclear weapons in the world ? What for ? Why can’t Iran have them too ? Do you know that critisizing Israel is actually…forbidden ? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/36 "2014-02-24T13:51:46Z")
> [@karol](#): > > What ? > Today’s Israel is not a Chosen Nation as they persist. Do you support their politics ? Do you know that they have the largest amount of nuclear weapons in the world ? What for ? Why can’t Iran have them too ? Do you know that critisizing Israel is actually…forbidden ? You didn’t answer my question. Do you believe that you are one of the real white Jews? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/37 "2014-02-24T13:54:01Z")
> [@karol](#): > > It’s about a particular subject: Rapture. Don’t you really understand this ? A buddy of mine wears some kind of belt and avoids heavy lifting. ---
**Author:** ![Donna\_Lange](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Donna\_Lange](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donna_Lange)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/38 "2014-02-24T13:57:45Z")
Is this view of the “rapture” from the bible fanfiction? Cause its sure as hell not in the bible canon or its extended universe of gospel. When show us a man who spontaneously prayed himself a new limb, come back and tell us all about your miracles buddy. Cause your “rapture” is considerable harder to swallow than that! ---
**Author:** ![karol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/977dab/32.png) [@karol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/karol)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/39 "2014-02-24T14:00:31Z")
> [@Donna\_Lange](#): > > Is this view of the “rapture” from the bible fanfiction? Cause its sure as hell not in the bible canon or its extended universe of gospel. > > When show us a man who spontaneously prayed himself a new limb, come back and tell us all about your miracles buddy. Cause your “rapture” is considerable harder to swallow than that! Another atheist without the ability to read with understanding ? ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2014, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090/40 "2014-02-24T14:00:43Z")
> [@karol](#): > > What ? > Today’s Israel is not a Chosen Nation as they persist. Do you support their politics ? Do you know that they have the largest amount of nuclear weapons in the world ? What for ? Why can’t Iran have them too ? Do you know that critisizing Israel is actually…forbidden ? I criticize Israel all the time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-believers-article-on-rapture/682090.md?page=3)