# For Better or For Worse - 12/21 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 21, 2005, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646 "2005-12-21T17:20:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/41 "2005-12-22T17:56:50Z")
Oh, and I know you were kidding, but don’t denigrate Farley’s death as ersatz-drama. That sequence of strips can still make me cry. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/42 "2005-12-22T18:02:53Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > I’m betting that, since Lynn is planning to end the strip in '07, that this one is the “Wright” guy for Liz. I never thought he was creepy or stalker-ish–just a nice guy who’s fallen for her, maybe a little too hard. And from today’s strip it looks like it might be mutual. I think it’s kinda sweet, and I’m usually pretty cynical about such things. > > I _do_ wonder what’s going to happen with Warren, though. we have a whole year of strips to get thru - a lot can happen in that time ---
**Author:** ![auRa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@auRa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auRa)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/43 "2005-12-22T19:20:55Z")
> [@winterhawk11](#): > > I _do_ wonder what’s going to happen with Warren, though. Well, on the FBOFW site in the “Meet the Pattersons” section on Elizabeth, it says > [@FBOFW](#): > > Although their friendship never had time to become a serious relationship, Warren helped Liz renew her confidence. There are honest and kind men out there. Warren is one of them. So I think the situation with Warren has been pretty much settled. ---
**Author:** ![ninevah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/46a35a/32.png) [@ninevah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ninevah)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/44 "2005-12-25T05:16:48Z")
> [@auRa](#): > > So I think the situation with Warren has been pretty much settled. Well, I still think that Warren guy is a bit of a prick - I mean, he doesn’t contact her for a year, suddenly he does at Christmas, then gets all weird when he sees her in the arms of another guy? What did he expect, that Liz would still be available? That seems to be what the strip is inferring. Personally, I quite like the Liz-Wright storyline - **finally** Liz is getting a bit of a decent love life! ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/45 "2005-12-25T05:27:32Z")
> [@ninevah](#): > > (snip)then gets all weird when he sees her in the arms of another guy? I didn’t read it as Warren being weird, just surprised. After all, he had no way of knowing, he and Liz never spoke about it, probably because they hadn’t spoken in months. On the flight home, he’ll ask her about it, she’ll reveal the seriousness of the relationship and they’ll agree to be friends. Worse than a stalker is a guy who thinks he has a relationship with a gal he never sees ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/46 "2005-12-25T05:39:29Z")
Warren’s reaction is ambiguous until tomorrow’s strip (probably Monday, actually…Sunday strips (in general, not just FBoFW) are notorious for having nothing to do with continuity). I don’t quite know how to read it myself. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/47 "2005-12-25T17:15:26Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, except the time that Lawrence came out and got kicked out of his parents’ house. And the time that Anthony got stuck in a loveless marriage because Elizabeth dumped him. And the time that Liz almost got raped by the workplace creep. And the time that Elly’s employee stole toys from the shop. > > FBoFW has always had a mix of comedy and family drama. Not quite soap opera-style drama, but it hasn’t always been “Get Fuzzy”. Lawrence - not part of the family. Anthony - not part of the family. Liz - almost is not a true tragedy. Elly - a fifty-year-old woman finds out that not everybody in the whole wide world is a cuddly bunny. :smack: There’s as much tragedy in FBoFW as there was in Peanuts. Less, if you argue for Schulz’s existential tragedy. It’s Lynn’s world and she’s entitled to a sunny view of life. She can’t make herself write any real darkness into the picture, and I’m positive her fans would never stand for it. That’s neither good nor bad, just factual. Let’s not pretend otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/48 "2005-12-25T17:38:52Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > I didn’t read it as Warren being weird, just surprised. After all, he had no way of knowing, he and Liz never spoke about it, probably because they hadn’t spoken in months. On the flight home, he’ll ask her about it, she’ll reveal the seriousness of the relationship and they’ll agree to be friends. Worse than a stalker is a guy who thinks he has a relationship with a gal he never sees … and then Warren says “You can walk the rest of the way home, bitch!” at 8,000 feet … ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/49 "2005-12-25T17:45:04Z")
I’ll put fifty quatloos on the constable. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/50 "2005-12-25T20:31:14Z")
> [@Exapno Mapcase](#): > > Elly - a fifty-year-old woman finds out that not everybody in the whole wide world is a cuddly bunny. :smack: She found that out when their property was vandalized. ---
**Author:** ![Kythereia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e8c25b/32.png) [@Kythereia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kythereia)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/51 "2005-12-25T21:43:26Z")
Hell, I’m wondering how _Anthony_’ll reply to this… ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/52 "2005-12-25T21:50:51Z")
> [@Kythereia](#): > > Hell, I’m wondering how _Anthony_’ll reply to this… Crying and wimpering like a big ol’ baby. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 25, 2005, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/53 "2005-12-25T21:58:03Z")
Not much sympathy for Anthony’s potential reaction here, either. He made his (really bad) choices, and his expectation that Liz would just pick up where they left off five years ago strikes me as a really stupid assumption. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/54 "2005-12-27T10:19:31Z")
That’s **it**? We were on the verge of a duel, and then abruptly cut to “So how’s the pilot?” — “Oh, he likes me a lot!”? Or perhaps we’ll get a flashback, the way Elly described the powwow in flashback? ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/55 "2005-12-27T12:37:22Z")
or maybe Liz and Deanna or Liz and Elly or Liz and April will talk about Liz’ love life this week. Or we’ll have to wait til after New Year’s when Liz goes back to teaching. BTW - my georgraphy sucks - where is it exactly that Liz is teaching? Middle Canada? West Canada? North Canada? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/56 "2005-12-27T13:24:22Z")
According to [Lynn Johnston](http://www.fborfw.com/char_pgs/mtigwaki/), Mtigwaki is in northern Ontario. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/57 "2005-12-27T13:35:41Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > That’s **it**? We were on the verge of a duel, and then abruptly cut to “So how’s the pilot?” — “Oh, he likes me a lot!”? Or perhaps we’ll get a flashback, the way Elly described the powwow in flashback? That **was** pretty weak. ---
**Author:** ![Torgo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@Torgo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Torgo)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2005, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/58 "2005-12-27T22:45:48Z")
> [@Jonathan Chance](#): > > Ooo, did you guys call that one [wrong.](http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/fb/) _Thank god._ Maybe this will make everyone forget my [Duke is Dead](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=338561&highlight=doonesbury) debacle. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/59 "2005-12-28T00:42:27Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Can you shoot down a helicopter with a police revolver? You could with Airwolf, but you had to hit it in just the right spot. ---
**Author:** ![Sublight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Sublight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sublight)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2005, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646/60 "2005-12-28T10:48:07Z")
Well, we now (Wednesday) seem to have a better insight into Lizardbreath’s feelings about the two. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-12-21/336646.md?page=4)