# For Better or For Worse 8/11 & 8/12 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 12, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731 "2005-08-12T15:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/1 "2005-08-12T15:00:32Z")
[Go](http://www.comics.com/comics/forbetter/archive/forbetter-20050811.html) [Anthony](http://www.comics.com/comics/forbetter/archive/forbetter-20050812.html)! ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/2 "2005-08-12T15:07:13Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > [Go](http://www.comics.com/comics/forbetter/archive/forbetter-20050811.html) [Anthony](http://www.comics.com/comics/forbetter/archive/forbetter-20050812.html)! Yeah, but I sure hope they don’t let that creep just run away and get away with what he did. It was assault, and who knows what he had in mind if he was able to subdue Liz? At minimum he should be fired, but really he should be arrested. If he gets away with a warning I’m going to be pretty disgusted with Lynn Johnston. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/3 "2005-08-12T15:08:19Z")
The real question is are they actually going to have Anthony leave his wife for Elizabeth? ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/4 "2005-08-12T15:57:42Z")
Being speculation, I’m not bothering with a spoiler tag. She’s been hinting forever that Anthony’s wife is about to leave him, they are hardly together anyways. What about Liz going back North to teach again? Hmmmm this is mini-Harry Potter like speculation, only with daily installments. Think we could get JK Rowling to do the same? ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/5 "2005-08-12T16:28:06Z")
**Mr. Goob.** MAN. there’s a million-dollar idea if I ever saw one. Harry Potter, the comic strip, by J. K. Rowling. With daily strips half the size of a Sunday supplement! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/6 "2005-08-12T16:35:54Z")
What amazes me is that either a) neither Liz or her father told Lawrence that Creepo was stalking her, or b) they did and Lawrence didn’t do anything about it, and actually left them alone in the store together. None of those fit Liz, Mr. Patterson, or Lawrence at all. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/7 "2005-08-12T16:47:15Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > …actually left them alone in the store together. I got the impression that Creepo wasn’t supposed to be in the store. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/8 "2005-08-12T16:50:53Z")
The big question is, what the heck was Anthony doing there? At first my mind was telling me that he’s the accountant, but he’s not Lawrence’s accountant…he’s Gordon’s. And he doesn’t even work from the office there, he works from home to take care of his kid (whose name I forgot). ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/9 "2005-08-12T16:51:22Z")
> [@Thudlow Boink](#): > > I got the impression that Creepo wasn’t supposed to be in the store. He was wearing his orange uniform shirt, so I assumed that he was there working. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/10 "2005-08-12T16:57:40Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > He was wearing his orange uniform shirt, so I assumed that he was there working. And I just realized that the linked comics are in b&w. I read them in the morning on [ucomics](http://www.ucomics.com/forbetterorforworse/), which prints the color versions. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/11 "2005-08-12T17:05:14Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > He was wearing his orange uniform shirt, so I assumed that he was there working. Accountants wear orange uniforms?? Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/12 "2005-08-12T17:11:44Z")
Sure it wasn’t an orange jumpsuit? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/13 "2005-08-12T17:17:35Z")
> [@zev\_steinhardt](#): > > Accountants wear orange uniforms?? > > Zev Steinhardt Creepo (Howard?), not Anthony. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/14 "2005-08-12T18:00:03Z")
I’ve been thinking that Elizabeth isn’t the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. She should have reported Howard long since for harassment and didn’t. She didn’t speak up when Lawrence left, and she knew she’d be alone with Howard. She’s damned lucky Anthony showed up, for whatever reason. And telling him “Be careful!” Careful of what, for crying out loud? Careful of hurting Howard. While Anthony had him in a chokehold, I would have been looking for a baseball bat to bash in his skull. Or at least calling the cops. Johnston had better write in some legal action against Howard, or I’m going to be pissed. The guy was going to rape Elizabeth, or beat her up if she fought too hard. Too bad aggravated rape isn’t a capital crime. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/15 "2005-08-12T18:10:55Z")
It’s not that Liz is stupid. It’s that she’s too _nice_. I Know way too many people (men and women) who will endure seemingly endless harassment up to and including minor assault (poking, pinching, nudging) because they don’t want to get anyone “in trouble” and after all, “it’s just playing around”. ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/16 "2005-08-12T18:37:15Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > I’ve been thinking that Elizabeth isn’t the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. This has been my suspicion about Liz for many years now. I decided it was definitely true after she willfully ignored her boyfriend Eric’s philandering a few years back. ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/17 "2005-08-12T18:39:11Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > It’s not that Liz is stupid. It’s that she’s too _nice_. I Know way too many people (men and women) who will endure seemingly endless harassment up to and including minor assault (poking, pinching, nudging) because they don’t want to get anyone “in trouble” and after all, “it’s just playing around”. Liz consistently sticks her head in the sand rather than dealing with problems. It always blows up in her face. You’d think she’d learn, but she doesn’t. Hence, dim bulb. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/18 "2005-08-12T18:41:52Z")
Makes for interesting reading though. I’m surprised Anthony was there. I agree that Liz should call the police and press charges. It looked like he was going to assault her in some manner. ---
**Author:** ![Q.N.Jones](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/3da27b/32.png) [@Q.N.Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.N.Jones)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/19 "2005-08-12T18:45:22Z")
> [@Lochdale](#): > > Makes for interesting reading though. I’m surprised Anthony was there. I agree that Liz should call the police and press charges. It looked like he was going to assault her in some manner. He _did_ assault and batter her. ---
**Author:** ![Askia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@Askia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askia)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2005, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731/20 "2005-08-12T18:49:00Z")
Being “too nice” != being “a dim bulb.” It’s sometimes hard to separate behavior traits and patterns from people, but there ya go. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-better-or-for-worse-8-11-8-12/316731.md?page=2)