# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/241 "1999-11-23T16:32:00Z")
And DavidB? Thanks for your posts in the “Seven Days, Pt. 2” thread…you summed up my thoughts on theistic evolution a lot better than I could have. ---
**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/242 "1999-11-23T16:34:00Z")
I always though Satan’s Cake of Immorality had a strawberry glaze, not an icing of homosexuality. I really must get Satan’s recipe for homosexuality icing. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/243 "1999-11-23T16:36:00Z")
> [@](#): > > [www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001064.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001064.html) 'Nuff sed. I’m going to go sublimate some anger now. -andros- ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/244 "1999-11-23T16:42:00Z")
Dangit, that was supposed to be the Portland homosexuality thread, but it got hung up in my 'puter so all y’all beat me. I’m still going to sublimate now. -a- ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/245 "1999-11-23T17:07:00Z")
Falcon, I posted there too, just now - check it out. Hope you don’t mind my taking your approach and running with it; I didn’t even know that was you, but I certainly agreed with what you said. Also, I’ve been having more fun on the [dating non-Christians](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001055-3.html) thread. My advice is obvious to anyone that has a clue, but they’re _so_ into doing things by the Book, or at least by their understanding of it, that they occasionally miss out on the experience of living. A postcard from Earth couldn’t hurt, I figure. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/246 "1999-11-24T06:29:00Z")
Can I shoot Thomas now? PLEASE??? (Check out the Portland and homosexuality thread…I literally just blew my top.) * * * “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” - George Carlin ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/247 "1999-11-24T06:58:00Z")
This truly will be my last posting before Thanksgiving. (I have more free time than I thought.) I asked a couple questions over at [www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001068.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001068.html) I hope this thread is still here in December, because I’m not sure if _theirs_ still will be; they multiply, divide and die off like amoebas in prime growth medium! Anyway, this is really good-bye until December. See ya! * * * Fighting my own ignorance since 1957. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/248 "1999-11-23T19:19:00Z")
Falcon, I think if Thomas is like that IRL, he’s one of the least Christ-like “Christians” ever. He’s a self-righteous, self-aggrandizing, holier-than-all-of-us, closed-minded, bigoted control freak who only hears the Word when it says what he wants it to. It’s people like him who helped me leave the church. You’re being remarkably patient and kind. Good luck. -andros- ---
**Author:** ![Mojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Mojo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mojo)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/249 "1999-11-23T19:34:00Z")
Say what you will about Thomas, he does have some unintentionally funny quotes. > [@](#): > > “Have no control over” is what Satan uses to keep people in the crab pot of homosexuality" ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/250 "1999-11-23T20:10:00Z")
I’m surprised that Thomas has lived this long. On the original ‘Biblical errors’ thread, I had to directly call him on his manners, and he did apologize, after some of the others there seconded me. But he doesn’t appear to have learned anything from the experience. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/251 "1999-11-23T20:22:00Z")
RT - He may apologize to me now…I just COMPLETELY lost it on that thread. And now everyone is telling me I misinterpreted it, and no one thinks any less of me for my position. HAH! (Sorry, but I think Thomas does…) _sigh_ Off to think about my friend Mark, who’s the one I’m speaking of in that thread. God, I’m actually tearing up…it’s people like Thomas that drove Mark away from the church, and made me lose my singing buddy at Mass. And I remember Mark’s pain like it was yesterday. \< shaking head \> Sorry for the ramble, folks…must be the dismal weather here in DC. * * * “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” - George Carlin ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/252 "1999-11-23T20:26:00Z")
He posts everywhere and seems to be a self-appointed moderator. They love him–he’s like a combination social chair and aggressive tabloid reporter. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/253 "1999-11-23T21:52:00Z")
[http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001071.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001071.html) Looks like Byteoart is going to start her own board. Her requirements are > [@](#): > > This is neither a Christian nor a Jewish board. All who enter are considered equals, and respect shall be paid to all. Respect others for their beliefs. And secondly: Nobody is permitted to try to use my board to convert someone to their religion, whatever the religion. Discussion. Not preaching. Debate. That does mean disagreements. Not slander. I told her to count me in. Byteoart is one of the more intelligent, civil, open-minded posters on that MB, IMO (along with nightmare, brianna, JAB and Daniel 🙂 ). I don’t blame her for leaving with threads like [this](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001043.html). > [@](#): > > Do you wish to be part of a thread that offers you a place to love God, acknowledge Jesus christ as his only Son our Lord, who was conceived by the Holy Spirit…Well you’ve come to the right place, **Don’t want no cults here, dont want no-one that dont love Jesus as their personal Lord and Saviour.** Go argue on some other mountain top. This is for those that believe and those that want to join us. I can see how she (Byteoart is Jewish) would be offended by the implication that Judaism is a “cult.” Doesn’t just happen in this thread either. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/254 "1999-11-23T22:04:00Z")
Sorry the world is full of such jerks, Falcon. Wish there was a cure for them. In the immortal words of Kim Stockwood, “How come jerks don’t know they’re jerks?” What I can’t understand, over there, is how oblivious the others are to it. Nobody else said a damned thing about it, on the bib. errors thread, until I called him on it, and nobody’s saying anything now. Maybe I’ll gather some of Thomas’ greatest hits, and serve them up all at once, to get the point across. And today was supposed to be a sunny day here in DC, too. (My office is actually in Suitland, but same difference.) Boy, did they call that one wrong. I’ll remember to keep your friend mark in my prayers. I’ve had gay friends, too, and I have some idea of what they go through. ---
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/255 "1999-11-23T23:08:00Z")
Oh God. Thomas just spewed forth _this_ rant in the Portland/Homosexual thread: > [@](#): > > God loves perfectly, but in order for Him to maintain His perfection, He must also hate. What does God hate? God hates sin. Sin and God cannot be together. If God allowed sin, if God tolerated sin, He would not be perfect. In order to be followers of God (Jesus), we must also strive to be like Him. We must strive to walk in the Spirit. Part of that walk is in hating and being intolerant of sin. And for something to compare this against, the following quote comes from Reverend Jim Phelps’ [www.godhatesfags.org](http://www.godhatesfags.org) website: > [@](#): > > God’s hatred is one of His holy attributes, whereby He reveals Himself as having a fixed and immutable determination to punish the finally impenitent with eternal perdition. God’s hatred is not like man’s hatred. His hatred is holy, pure, unchanging, while man’s hatred is a sinful, fickle emotion. … Because the Bible preaches hate. For every one verse about God’s mercy, love, compassion, etc., there are two verses about His vengeance, hatred, wrath, etc. The maudlin, kissy-pooh, feel-good, touchy-feely preachers of today’s society are damning this nation and this world to hell. Notice any similarities? – tracer, who wonders if Thomas attends the Westboro Baptist Church ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 1999, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/256 "1999-11-23T23:29:00Z")
I have a question similar to **tracer** ’s. In the [Portland ‘promotes’ homosexuality](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001064-2.html) thread, there’s something interesting going on. Check out these posts:. **Thomas** posted 11-23-1999 01:27 PM > [@](#): > > Navigator: I like being in such profound agreement with someone like you. **Navigator** posted 11-23-1999 01:49 PM > [@](#): > > Thomas: It is funny… it is almost like you and I have something in common?? > Whatever could it be?? **Navigator** posted 11-23-1999 02:16 PM > [@](#): > > Briana: Peace. > I know for a fact that Thomas feels the same way I do about Bro. Phelps and his brood. (hint: I ain’t for it) > I also think you got our little aside, mised up with the topic. The freaks he was referring to were the homo-phobes or those that fear the same. > I’m sure Thomas will clarify his remarks. Is “Thomas” Navigator’s “fire and brimstone” alter-ego? Is he the “Left Behind” version of **Loverock**? Inquiring minds want to know. * * * Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/257 "1999-11-24T02:40:00Z")
Well, I lit off a couple messages earlier today and I’m probably not going to have time to check back in there 'til Monday or so. (Whatever computer time I have will, of course, be spent **here**.) Not that they pay attention anyway. But if they reply about Adam and Eve’s appendix (somebody replied and said they might have had one that had some duty that disappeared after they brought sin into the world, or some such nonsense, and I responded that it must be nice to use circular reasoning), please feel free to carry it on. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![pldennison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9fc29f/32.png) [@pldennison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pldennison)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/258 "1999-11-24T13:12:00Z")
> [@](#): > > In the immortal words of Kim Stockwood, “How come jerks don’t know they’re jerks?” Ohmigod ohmigod ohmigod, you just quoted Kim Stockwood. You are my new best friend. * * * “Come on, Phonics Monkey–drum!” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/259 "1999-11-24T15:20:00Z")
pl - does she have any other songs out there? ‘Jerk’ is the only one I’ve heard, but I love it. Getting back to the thread, I’ve made my last post on the ‘Left Behind’ site. This morning, I was checking in to the [‘Is Looking at Porn a Sin?’](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001079.html) thread (David’s been there too), and they were jumping on the guy who started the discussion, saying (at length) that he must have a serious problem with porn. I laid into them for their habit of turning their debates into personal attacks, and cited some of their other bad behaviors, before pointing out what a great witness they would be to any non-Christians stopping by. But I’m outa there; I really have had enough. It’s been interesting, but there comes a point. Besides, the rate at which they post is astonishing; they leave this board in the dust. Don’t these people have jobs, I kept wondering. (Especially since some of the active posters are well beyond their student years.) I can’t keep up, and feel like I’m doing my day job any justice, at the same time. And I rather like having an income. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 1999, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/260 "1999-11-24T21:10:00Z")
RT - Just read that post…I think I love you. _smooch_ Well said. I too have made my last post over there…I can’t read their crap without knowing that they are what people think of when they think of Christians. _sigh_ * * * “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” - George Carlin [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218.md?page=14)