# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 1999, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/361 "1999-12-04T19:43:00Z")
I saw that message of yours, jab1. (Or should I say, “JAB”.) I just know the response is going to be: “Well, nobody’s ever seen macroevolution, so it’s just an unproven theory. Nyah nyah.” Then I’ll re-post my link to the Talk.Origins archive page documenting actual cases of speciation, then Navigator will go off on an unrelated tangent, and then five or six messages later someone will claim (again!) that no one has ever seen one species evolve into another. _sigh_. You’re right, Cecil, fighting ignorance is hard. * * * “Love 'em, fear 'em, and leave 'em alone.” – Dr. Spockiavelli ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 1999, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/362 "1999-12-04T20:52:00Z")
Yeah, SoulFrost, but Nav. forgave me. Whattaguy! \< smirk \> ---
**Author:** ![Satan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Satan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satan)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 1999, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/363 "1999-12-05T04:56:00Z")
HELP! [http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001258.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001258.html) I think I took care of the semantics of Jaltus’ arguments here, but I could use help with specific scientific arguments when he talks of: - No transitional data. - Fossil data records. - No evidence for macro-evolution. I thank you for your support! * * * Yer pal, Satan ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 1999, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/364 "1999-12-05T08:57:00Z")
Oh lord, Satan…I just died laughing from your username over there. Very nice. And the same sig…damn, I’m amused. Of course, that might be from reading the thread at 4 in the morning too. * * * “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” - George Carlin ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 1999, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/365 "1999-12-05T13:41:00Z")
Jeez, I don’t drop in over there for a day and look what happens! Actually, I may not drop in any more today, either. Just too much going on. (Let’s see, football or LBMB? No contest.) I love Ghoti’s attempt at a joke: > [@](#): > > isn’t also an anagram of…hmmm.let me see here…oh, I don’t know…could it be…(((((SATAN))))) If he only knew… I wonder if any of ‘em will work out Daniel’s anagram. Maybe I should list “anagrams” as one of my interests in my profile. At least one person finally read it and was confused by the “Stand-Up Philosopher” reference (Mel Brooks’ _History of the World, Part 1_, but didn’t mention the Beagles and Finches… ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/366 "1999-12-06T02:42:00Z")
Well, it had to happen sometime… One of the “Santa/Satan” threads has spawned a discussion on anagrams (yeah, ok, so I helped a little). [http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-local/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=The+Narrow+Road&number=8&topic=001262.cgi&TopicSubject=Santa-Saten!](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-local/postings.cgi?action=reply&forum=The+Narrow+Road&number=8&topic=001262.cgi&TopicSubject=Santa-Saten!) All you Janus-named people should come by and have a little fun… 😉 David ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/367 "1999-12-06T02:43:00Z")
ACK! Admin–fix that, ok. Sorry… ---
**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/368 "1999-12-06T09:38:00Z")
\too damn long\wrong damn link anyway\damn sinuses… [Santa-Saten!](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001262.html) -David ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/369 "1999-12-06T14:39:00Z")
I haven’t seen it yet, but anagrams with Santa and Satan would work a lot better if the idiot knew how to spell “Satan” properly! ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/370 "1999-12-06T14:41:00Z")
No can edit. That old screwed-up HTML post by Polycarp still won’t let me edit this thread properly. So we’ll just have to deal with the extra-wide screen 'til we get to a new page. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/371 "1999-12-06T15:11:00Z")
Nav blew the joke, btw. More accurately: Q. What does a dyslexic, agnostic insomniac do? A. Sits up all night wondering if there’s a Dog. ---
**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/372 "1999-12-06T15:19:00Z")
Haven’t seen the joke yet. Like I said, I haven’t had time to pop in over there – just quickly skimmed some stuff when people here pointed over there. Which brings up a point. There are web programs that can determine how people are getting to your site. For example, when Contestant #3 posted some links to a guy’s site a few months ago, the guy in question showed up because he noticed a surge of hits from folks who had originated at the same location (here). While I’m sure the LBMB gets more hits than that guy does, we probably should be careful not to use these links we’ve posted here with regularity. If they happen to be running that software (and many webmasters do, just to find out who is linking to them) and notice a stream of users coming from here, well, they could backtrack and figure it all out. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/373 "1999-12-06T17:25:00Z")
To say nothing of a certain “shining one”, who perhaps deserves _some_ credit as a good sport for not having spilled the beans already. BTW, I haven’t registered yet (next to you people, all I’d be able to do is heckle, which, come to think of it, is pretty much what I do here), but you might be hearing from Tim Barnes, yet. ---
**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/374 "1999-12-07T06:53:00Z")
And now, time to have fun on Satan’s thread…I just responded that teaching the Christian “theory” of creation is unconstitutional. THIS should be amusing as hell. * * * “Men are from Earth, women are from Earth. Deal with it.” - George Carlin ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 1999, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/375 "1999-12-06T22:14:00Z")
$0.02: “Stan A.”: Ohmigawd, that’s priceless. I read your whole post, thinking “hey, someone with a brain,” until I saw the “Yer pal” sig. You’re my hero. Best I could do is “D.N. Rosa.” Folks, I’ve been managing to enjoy some of what I’ve read Over There, but even your posts can’t keep me reading. I’m going off LBMB cold turkey. I just find myself getting frustrated and spiteful at the “good christians,” and that’s somewhere I don’t want to be. Too many of these people have taken some wierd scriptural interpretations waaaaay too far. Most (read: mainstream) Christian scholars think the “Left Behind” series is completely whacko. Sheesh, the whole Apocalyptic Camp as we know it today only arose a hundred and fifty years ago. These folks are nutballs at worst, mindless drones desperately seeking warm fuzzies in a cold prickly world at best. So I’m out. But please, please, please . . . if there’s a good exchange or set of posts, please continue to quote and post links on this thread. Jab, RTF, Satan, David, 'Frost, Dr. F, et al, luck and the Peace of Big Juju on you. -andros- ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/376 "1999-12-07T00:44:00Z")
## Trying to get another page started so we all don’t have to scroll left and right anymore: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - How’s that? * * * Fighting my own ignorance since 1957. ---
**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/377 "1999-12-07T00:46:00Z")
Also, you realize this thread now has _two_ messed-up pages? * * * Fighting my own ignorance since 1957. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/378 "1999-12-07T01:31:00Z")
New page every 50 posts. Bump, bump! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/379 "1999-12-07T01:31:00Z")
New page every 50 posts. Bump, bump! ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/380 "1999-12-07T01:31:00Z")
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