# For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [November 12, 1999, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218 "1999-11-12T22:37:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/421 "1999-12-07T20:45:00Z")

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Already did it. See [http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001286.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001286.html)

The thread quickly sank, though. One person responded but mostly addressed the person to whom I was responding. (He had made a standard, “this proves we need religion in schools” statement, which I knocked down.)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/422 "1999-12-07T21:07:00Z")

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I just posted there; check it out.

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“Living in this complex world of the future is not unlike having bees live inside your head.” - Firesign Theatre

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/423 "1999-12-07T21:13:00Z")

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RT - I thinks I loves ya!

Eventually, I’m hoping to work out with these people exactly HOW they’ll put God back in schools without being unconstitutional. I ain’t holding my breath on it, though.

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“There is no worse lie than a truth misunderstood by those who hear it.” - William James

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/424 "1999-12-07T21:14:00Z")

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Great – but the problem is I disagree with you on gun control laws. 😉

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/425 "1999-12-07T21:40:00Z")

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Ok, who here is Meara? (See Stan’s thread on being moral without God.)

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/426 "1999-12-07T21:54:00Z")

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Someone said “I have noticed that none of these shootings have occured in a Christian school.”

Check out my reply.

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Fighting my own ignorance since 1957.

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/427 "1999-12-07T22:00:00Z")

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Saw it. Very good. I was trying to think of a good comeback but hadn’t yet, although I knew there was one out there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/428 "1999-12-07T22:44:00Z")

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Groooooan.

In that school shootings thread ( [http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001286.html](http://www.leftbehind.com/cgi-bbs/Forum8/HTML/001286.html) ), Lauralee wrote:

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> Thank You God!!! Praise the Lord that they survived!

You do **not** know just how tempted I was to have my alter ego, Joshua 10:40, reply with:

“Screw you, God!!! Damn the Lord for letting them get shot in the first place!”

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/429 "1999-12-07T23:19:00Z")

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Folks, I do my posting at the Public Library. If I don’t click on the “Clear Fields” button or close the window when I’m done, then my name and password remain and _anyone_ can therefore send a message pretending to be me. It just happened over at LBMB, but I don’t think it’s happened here.

A word to the wise is sufficient.

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Fighting my own ignorance since 1957.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/430 "1999-12-07T23:27:00Z")

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Not only that, but somebody at the public library might peek over your shoulder and think you were a born-again Christian.

_shudder_

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**Author:** ![Gaudere](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e495f1/32.png) [@Gaudere](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gaudere)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/431 "1999-12-07T23:27:00Z")

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Better delete the cookies off the computer (if the site uses them) as well. Otherwise any time that day (assuming they shut the computers off at night) someone could go to Left Behind and your password/username would be waiting for them.

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**Author:** ![jab1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ee7513/32.png) [@jab1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jab1)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/432 "1999-12-07T23:44:00Z")

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Yeah, they do shut them off at night. I may simply turn off the computer and re-boot it when I’m done because you can’t close a window unless there are more than one. That last one remains until the computer is shut off.

The Library has also done something else: “Edit,” “View,” “Go,” and “Help” don’t work.

As for looking over my shoulder, they have these “privacy screens” that appear to be polarized so that the screen is visible only if you look directly at it. From the side, the screen appears dark.

I can’t complain too much. Other Libraries don’t even allow people to check their e-mail or post on message boards or go into chat rooms. I’m lucky that the LAPL allows all that.

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Fighting my own ignorance since 1957.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 1999, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/433 "1999-12-07T23:56:00Z")

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I’ll cheerfully point out that it’s quite possible to be a born-again Christian without being one of Them. 😉

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/434 "1999-12-08T01:10:00Z")

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Aw, c’mon RTFirefly, you **know** that as soon as you accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, you’re required to believe that the world will end on 1-Jan-2000 and that science is the tool of Satan (sorry Brian). 😉

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/435 "1999-12-08T01:22:00Z")

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tracer - damn, I guess I didn’t get that memo. I never can get in the loop around here!

Falcon - you’re pretty cool yourself. And definitely don’t hold your breath; we know they’re all for Establishment of Religion - theirs.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/436 "1999-12-08T02:09:00Z")

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Ooh! Ooh! Mista Kotta!

Have you guys seen the “MONDEX” thread in the End Times forum? Yet another e-cash system getting accused of being the Mark of the Beast…

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/437 "1999-12-08T13:06:00Z")

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Jab said:

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> It just happened over at LBMB, but I don’t think it’s happened here.

Whoa! Where did it happen there? Which thread?

Tracer: _Everything_ is a mark of the beast. Heck, they even are talking about a chip that can be put in the eye to cure blindness as a mark of the beast! Yeah, we should avoid curing people 'cus the anti-Christ is gonna use it to control us all!

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**Author:** ![Falcon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/49beb7/32.png) [@Falcon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Falcon)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/438 "1999-12-08T16:44:00Z")

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And we have a NEW random question of the day award! MikeM over there just asked me how old I am! Because clearly I’ve been led astray by liberal revisionist history, OR I’m a card-carrying member of the ACLU! _rolling eyes_

Oh well…at least they’re not asking me if i’m a Christian. Yet.

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“There is no worse lie than a truth misunderstood by those who hear it.” - William James

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/439 "1999-12-08T20:03:00Z")

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Oh, I have a Number of the Beast question.

In both the Greek alphabet and the Hebrew alphabet, every letter has a numeric value (aleph is 1, beth is 2, gimmel is 3, etc.). The Beast is supposed to have a name whose numeric value is 666; i.e., if you add up the numeric values of all the letters in his name, it will come out to six hundred sixty-six.

Is it the **Greek** version of the Beast’s name that’s supposed to add up to 666, or is it the **Hebrew** version of his name?

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**Author:** ![David\_B](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/51bf81/32.png) [@David\_B](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/David_B)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 1999, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/for-david-b-the-good-doctor-and-others-who-are-knowledgable-about-creation-debate/17218/440 "1999-12-08T20:06:00Z")

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Beasts me. 😉

Did anybody else notice the sudden silence in the c/e thread, part 3? They were all so gung-ho, then I posted a second FAQ info on speciation and shoot down Hovind. Suddenly, all I see is a bump from Stan…

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